(November 6, 2017 at 10:54 am)possibletarian Wrote: Well, creating free willed people (if indeed free will is true) who use that free will, and because its not something you like, then condemning them to eternal torture is insane.
No it isn't. Expecting equal treatment of all people regardless of their use of free will is insane.
Quote:This is all about what god wants, not what his (supposedly) beloved free willed people want.
If that were the case, it's not problematic seeing as God is the creator.
However, since people who want to be with god get that, and people who don't want to be with him aren't with him, it's not all about what god wants.
And regarding "(supposedly) beloved" - as I noted in another recent thread, the Bible says that god doesn't consider himself the father of all. It says he endures such people with longsuffering. Not everyone is supposedly beloved of god.
Quote:But lets take your argument and take it to its logical conclusion, lets say the rapture happens tomorrow, what about the people who after that would have turned to god, at first it will only be a few, then thousands, which turn into millions, which turn into trillions.
What about them? God as creator has the right to make the cutoff wherever he wants.