Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?

[SteveII]

Then your question is simply why did God create the world we have. Why do you prejudice the question with the phrase "untold suffering". Do you think that on average there is more suffering in the world than not? 

Well yes you could ask that, but god did exactly that he created a world he knew would suffer, not only that he created a world where the majority would go to hell for eternity, why do you think that is creating muddy waters .  Do you believe it to be untrue or unfair to mention in some way  ?

A great summary for God's purpose can be found here: https://www.gotquestions.org/purpose-of-man.html

Regarding if God knew mankind would sin: https://www.gotquestions.org/if-God-knew...e-sin.html

What makes you think they are valid points, or answer any questions ?

Because you asked "why" several times. "What is God's purpose" is exactly the answer to the question "why". 

What is with you and "untold suffering"? Have you had a difficult life or are you poisoning the well to make your argument stronger? It's depressing!

Well yes, a depressing feature that Christianity has use to great effect to coerce the ignorant, more to the point do you believe the bible to be true when it talks about hell ? or do you believe burning in hell forever does not fit a description of untold suffering ?

Not so fast. Your OP specifically said "why he allowed people to be born who had not even existed before procreation to enter a world of suffering?". Shifting your "suffering" window to include hell weakens you point significantly. If hell is a result of free actions and God does not want anyone to go there, then it is a consequence of a bad choice, not the original purpose. 

Have you every watched children behave over time? No one needs to teach them to be selfish, disobedient, and willful. It is in our nature to do so.

Then god created us like that, making judging us for those traits a nonsense

With free will?? Yes, he did. You cannot have love or true worship without fee will. Your point would only be persuasive if we could not avoid judgement. We can, so your objection is weak from a logic standpoint. 

If there is no such thing as free will, then no one is ultimately responsible for their actions. Christianity unravels. 

Well yes, absolutely but free will under duress of hell is not really free will at all.

Again, that might be a good point if that was the only reason for becoming a Christian. It is clearly not, so it is not a very strong point either. 

Apparently God's purpose was not achieved by making two human beings. See above link.

 Oh nobody is stopping god if he existed making more, just that he spare the rest of us poor folks eternity in hell.  Why not simply create spiritual beings, cut out the middle man so to speak.  Why create fragile human beings at all ?

Since it is becoming clear that you are not going to read the article I will paste it below. Additionally, you seem to be arguing against a religion that you know very little about. Trying to make logical arguments without understanding God's purpose, free will, God's holiness and justice, and other pretty basic doctrines, is only convincing to someone who has assumed the conclusion--not reasoned to it. 

Question: "What is the purpose of man, according to the Bible?"

Answer: The Bible makes it abundantly clear that God created man and that He created him for His glory (). Therefore, the ultimate purpose of man, according to the Bible, is simply to glorify God.

A harder question to answer, perhaps, is what does it look like to glorify God? In , we’re told to worship God with gladness and “know that the Lord is God. It is he who made us, and we are his; we are his people, the sheep of his pasture.” Part of what it looks like to glorify God is to acknowledge who God is (our Creator, for starters) and to praise and worship Him as such.

We fulfill our purpose of glorifying God also by living our lives in relationship and faithful service to Him (1 Samuel 12:24; John 17:4). Since God created man in His image (Genesis 1:26–27), man’s purpose cannot be fulfilled apart from Him. King Solomon tried living for his own pleasure, yet at the end of his life he concluded that the only worthwhile life is one of honor and obedience to God ().

In our fallen state, sin separates us from God and makes it impossible to glorify Him on our own. But through Jesus Christ’s sacrifice, our relationship with God is reconciled—our sin is forgiven and no longer creates a barrier between God and us ().

Interestingly, we are able to glorify God because He gave us glory first. David writes in Psalm 8:4–6, “What is mankind that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them? You have made them a little lower than the angels and crowned them with glory and honor. You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under their feet.” (This is also repeated in Hebrews 2:6–8.) This verse reveals another purpose that God has given man: dominion over the earth (). Again, though, this can only be properly fulfilled through a right relationship with God.

The more we get to know our Creator and the more we love Him (Matthew 22:37–38), the better we understand who we are and what our purpose is. We were created to bring Him glory. God has unique plans and purposes for each person (Psalm 139:13–16), but we can know that, whatever those plans look like, they will ultimately result in His glory (Proverbs 3:6; 1 Corinthians 10:31).  https://www.gotquestions.org/purpose-of-man.html

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It seems implicit in your question 1 that God was surprised by the fall. He was not. His purpose did not change because he always knew it would happen. Why in the world do you imagine that "starting over" would produce different results? Without perfect knowledge, free will will always result in sin eventually. 


Regarding question 2, souls don't exist until conception.

(emphasis mine)

My goodness gracious, can't let such a vile heresy pass unremarked upon.  Souls are eternal.  But they are only inspirated into human bodies upon successful birth.

Damn, this Sunday School 101 stuff that is totally mysterious to even believers is just awesomely jaw dropping to me.

We REALLY need better, more pious and learned theists posting here.

That is simply wrong. Not only wrong, but impossible.