Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?

[John V]

But it isn't free willed people sending anyone to be tortured neither did free willed people create hell, the bottom line is god knew what would happen but went ahead anyway.

Yes, he went ahead knowing that those who love him would get eternal life, and those who hate or ignore him would get judgment and hell. Yet again, foregoing creation due to that knowledge would be favoring the enemies over the friends, which is absurd.

Oh course they were not, anyone who disobeyed was stoned, hardly fruitful ground for free will, I'm really surprised you don't know this.
When I say to my daughter she has a few choices I don't give her one that results in a painful death, and then call it a free and fair choice. It constantly amazes me how theists minds are so easily twisted like this.

Ex 19
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
7 And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the Lord commanded him.
8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the Lord hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the Lord.

But yet you state you are happy with people after the rapture not getting a choice, even those who would believe.

Not sure what you mean by "after the rapture." More ignorance. You really mean after the thousand year reign. And again, it's God's creation, it's his choice to make the cutoff wherever he pleases. As noted, the Bible says that God is longsuffering concerning sin, i.e. it pains him to see the sin in this world. I don't expect him to go through that forever, and I'm grateful that he waited long enough for my existence.

He does not have any responsibilities if he is truly what we call a god and can do whatever he wants, to have responsibilities you have to have someone to be responsible to.

So you're admitting the responsibility argument was a straw man.

the point being that eternal torture is such an arbitrary petty thing to do it's clearly not a god worth following puts him in the same league as Allah.

Your opinion is noted. Again, you make this assertion without any reasoning behind it.

But it was his desire to create people who would go to hell and be tortured for eternity,

No, you gave verses yourself showing that wasn't his desire.

it was his plan from the beginning, so yes even with free will god gets all he desires.  There is a clear contradiction in scripture, it is insane to implement a plan you know will result in hell, if it's your desire to not have anyone go to hell.

Not if people going to hell is a necessary consequence of fulfilling the desire of having eternal fellowship with people in heaven. You're just trying a different angle at the same bad argument that God should care more about the fate of those who hate him, than those who love him. THAT's insanity.

For instance would you stone your child for disobeying you, if it meant disobeying god if you didn't ?

Probably not. My faith is weak just like Israel's. Plus you don't really understand the verse you're referencing.

If there is a purpose for the unsaved, then being unsaved is all part of god's plan, so hell is also a part of gods plan, but that's the point does that make sense when god wishes all men to be saved ?

Again, by allowing free will, a consequence is that God doesn't get his every desire.

The Romans 9 passage is about Israel, not the unsaved per-say. but that god allowed the gentiles in to make Israel jealous.  But then claims all Israel will be saved.  The bottom line is there is no justification at all other than a brainwashing to believe so.

No, the passage I referenced is about saved v. not. Note v24: "24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"

Someone who creates people just to be put in a place of torture is simply not compatible with a loving god. These are a perfect example of how religion twists peoples mind from the obvious to the implausible.

It's compatible with a righteous and just god. God is both just and loving. Love does not require one to ignore sin. But, in god's love, he offers salvation which he earned for us himself. If you don't want that salvation, you don't have to take it.