RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
November 7, 2017 at 8:04 am
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2017 at 8:25 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(November 6, 2017 at 7:51 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(November 6, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My guess would be because He saw that ultimately whatever goodness came from allowing humans to exist would far outweigh the suffering. If this weren't the case, I assume He wouldn't have done it.
What amount of good would there have to be to outweigh the suffering ? I mean to a god who could presumably make the world the way he wanted it.
It's not a question i expect you to know a clear answer too, after all I don't know what the answer to that would like either.
I don't know. I haven't seen the entire existence of humanity on earth and their existence in eternity, so impossible to say.
Quote:Quote:(November 6, 2017 at 7:51 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Question 2
If there is some kind of argument that there has to be a number god has to reach, then where are these spirits/souls before they are born into human bodies ? Do you perhaps believe in some kind of re-incarnation, or souls waiting for an incarnation ?
I'm not sure what you are talking about with this "numbers" thing. In my religion, we believe that souls don't exist prior to a person being conceived. They begin existing at that moment. No, I do not believe in reincarnation or souls waiting to be incarnated.
Well does not bible talk about in Romans 11:25 '
Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ.' And then I assume it will go back to Israel again, but this time they will see the truth.
And souls not even existing till conception (which is pretty much what i thought most Christians believed) makes me wonder why god didn't stop procreation then.
Im not familiar with that. Unfortunately Catholics aren't too well versed on the bible bc the Church interprets it for us, so we get lazy about reading it. We don't have anything official to say about that particular issue you brought up with the numbers. probably because it isn't important in the grand scheme of things. The world will end someday, that's all we need to know. How or when isn't important to a theological standpoint.
As to your question, as I said: I would assume because He saw that ultimately the existence of humans would be a net good.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh