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Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
(November 14, 2017 at 3:25 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Could be that God is calling out to you and if you're to actually become a Christian in the way you believe you will no matter how much you fight it.
Atheists are not fighting anything, there is just no valid reason to believe in any of the thousands of claimed gods.

There is only one God, you can ignore the others and whether you admit it or not you are rejecting Christ and pacing yourself in eternal danger.

(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Don't be ridiculous, I told you it was God's desire not His will that all would be saved. If God were to reveal Himself before man you would have no choice but to believe, the effect upon you would be the same as it was on Moses.

Abbadon_ire Wrote:Well, no not really. For example, if Bible god were proven to exist then I would believe in him/her/it/housecat no problem. But worship it? Nope. Do my best to kill the immoral thug would be more likely and a best course of action from a moral perspective.

You are pitiful, you think you could kill  the God who created the universe, the God who blink you away by a thought. Immoral thug, atheist say that morality is what each one sees as right, yet you would deny the One who created you the same right. Seeing Him and believing He is real and not worshiping Him will still and you in hell.

(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Why do you say the bold by me? My ultimate will for my woodworking projects do not necessarily match my desire for a piece, why would you expect God to be different.

Abbadon_ire Wrote:He is by definition different. If god is not different then he is the same as anyone else and gets no special consideration.

God is not a definition, He is who He is by His nature. Really no special consideration, you mean to tell me you consider everyone in your life the same, I highly doubt that. God created us with many desires and a will, He gave us some of His attributes.

(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Your desire is God's will and if you continue you will have chosen your own special hell. God doesn't choose your destination, He does enforce your choice, so if you do not change you should be preparing yourself for a life eternal of torment, a torment worse that an everlasting fire.

Abbadon_ire Wrote:Who created a hell to which he could consign the unbelievers? Who then threatened that place upon those to whom he had not revealed himself. Does that sound "loving" to anyone.

God created a place for the unbelieving to live for eternity, each individual there will have created their own hell by the way they lived this life and their blatant rejection of Christ. God doesn't threaten, He doesn't have to. God gave everyone a choice that has heard about Christ, those who have not will receive a special judgement based on the life they lived. So you haven't been threatened. You have heard about Christ and you have a choice to make, heaven or hell all depends on you.

GC

(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Gods not so puny as you say, He will make sure you have your choice and that you will not be able to change if you continue down this path of destruction.

Abbadon_ire Wrote:Bible god is amazingly puny. According to the bible, he is not omnipotent, omniscient or omnipresent. and strangely unable to deal with iron chariots, for some reason.

Now your being plain stupid, the Bible most certainly describes as omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. He who created the universe could be nothing less. God wouldn't destroy the chariots because of Israel's sin. Try reading the Bible before you make a fool of yourself, how do you propose to argue against something you know nothing about. 

(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Do I seem stupid to you? You wouldn't agree with me if I could prove all that I've written to you.

Abbadon_ire Wrote:Stupid? No. Misled? Yes.

I've been led by the holy God and creator of the universe, you own the other hand have been led by man and show the self righteousness of one who cares more about the self than the One who gave you life.

(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Interesting finish to your above sentence, seems to me you're at a loss for words or an argument against the Bible. Of coarse I can't prove everything, if you thought that was a possibility you wouldn't have made the statement you did. Faith comes first to those who do not know God, later God gives His children of inheritance knowledge the truth of scriptures, I have a knowledge you can't understand. How do I know this, you can't understand the simplest things of scripture.

Abbadon_ire Wrote:Start with that lot. Then we can go on to how your scripture is unable to even agree with itself, gets basic things wrong, and swipes itself from pretty much every other religion in the region at the time.

Oh, and talking donkeys and unicorns and dragons and so forth. That will be a bucket of metaphorical fun.

 You haven't shown any contradictions in the scriptures. The other religions have no idea who the God of the Bible is and it is He who inspired the words written. I know the Bible starting with the OT is not as old as some writings, the Hebrews passed down much through the years before their release from Egypt by stories through remembrance.

The Creator of the universe can do anything with animals He pleases and we do not know if some of the words of the old Hebrew have been translated correctly and the same goes for all ancient languages.

GC

(November 14, 2017 at 5:28 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(November 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Could be that God is calling out to you and if you're to actually become a Christian in the way you believe you will no matter how much you fight it.
 Someone else took it upon their self to answer all those questions, read my answers to that post, I'm not answering the same questions over and over. I made a statement that I was tired of answering the same things over and over because others wanted to inject their selves into a conversation that was never meant for them. This is the results and will continue to be from now own.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ? - by Godscreated - November 15, 2017 at 11:26 pm

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