RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
November 16, 2017 at 11:07 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2017 at 11:08 am by SteveII.)
(November 15, 2017 at 9:47 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(November 15, 2017 at 1:59 pm)SteveII Wrote: I didn't say the Bible was wrong. The only way you get to that is if the Bible says enslaving others against their will is immoral. It does not. Therefore your inference is wrong.
Human sacrifice is immoral.
Really? The bible says that enslaving others is perfectly OK and even provides rules for doing so. In fact god commands it.
As for human sacrifice, one need look no further than the daughter of Jepthah. (dead)
Or Lot. Rape my daughters why not.
Incest? All good in the bible.
Rape? Kill the victim.
Genocide? Kill them all, but keep the virgin girls as your sluts.
These are the horrible things in the bible.
These are also the things that the bible claims are "moral".
Forced slavery - God's command makes it moral (Divine Command Theory). Absent such a command, it is immoral. God regulating things like slavery does not make it moral. The only inference you are justified in making it that it was necessary to regulate it.
Jepthah killed his daughter to keep a vow. Take it up with him. Human sacrifice is immoral.
Rape = immoral
Incest = immoral
There is no genocide in the Bible. As far as killing the enemy completely, God commands = moral. Absent such a command = immoral.
Listing things in the Bible does not make them moral. God regulating things like slavery does not make it moral.
(November 16, 2017 at 10:56 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(November 16, 2017 at 10:51 am)SteveII Wrote: Jesus wasn't just a human and no one sacrificed him. He paid a price voluntarily. So your point is wrong on multiple counts.
He paid a price? What price? According to christians, jebus is not dead at all, he was merely temporarily inconvenienced for a weekend.
You use the word "Jebus" again, you will never get another response from me. Not because I am offended or think God needs me to defend him, but because you lack character and I don't discuss things with people who lack character.