(November 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Astreja Wrote: Thoughts are irrelevant here.
No, they're not. I think, therefore I am. If god determined our every thought, then we don't exist in any meaningful way.
Not so. Taking Descartes at his word, the presence of thoughts would cause you to exist. You'd essentially be your god's puppet, and your existence as a puppet could still be in some way meaningful to your god.
Quote:(November 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Astreja Wrote: Regardless of what we think or believe, your god is constraining our behaviour.
How so?
By forcing us into one afterlife place or another according to its will, and by forcing many people to say words they don't actually believe, out of fear.
I could drop down on my knees right this instant and blurt out the Sinner's Prayer, but I won't. Know why? Because I don't believe it and in fact have never believed it. I would be lying to myself and lying to your god, and to me it just isn't worth it.