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Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
(November 17, 2017 at 6:44 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(November 17, 2017 at 6:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: This isn't hard to understand--you should be able to keep up.

God does not know that you turned right (so there is no fact of the matter for him to know), he can anticipate, without error, all the steps leading up to your decision--including the way you think--so what he knows is what you will decide.  Just like I know that my wife will choose chocolate over vanilla except with a infinite mind with all knowable facts and counterfactuals available to him.

Then that simply brings us back to asking, why did he allow people to be born, whom he knew would suffer eternally ?

(November 17, 2017 at 6:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: This isn't hard to understand--you should be able to keep up.

God does not know that you turned right (so there is no fact of the matter for him to know), he can anticipate, without error, all the steps leading up to your decision--including the way you think--so what he knows is what you will decide.  Just like I know that my wife will choose chocolate over vanilla except with a infinite mind with all knowable facts and counterfactuals available to him.
Bold and Italics mine*

The what is prophecy then if not god knowing what you will do ?  How do you separate god predicting with absolute certainty, and knowing ?

You didn't read carefully enough. God does not know that you turned right. God knows that you will choose to turn right (for the reasons I described above). The difference between the two is important because it removes the whole objection that we couldn't have turned left because God already knew something to be true. Is there a difference between predicting with absolute certainty and knowing? I don't think so.
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RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ? - by SteveII - November 17, 2017 at 6:56 pm

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