(November 23, 2017 at 6:05 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(November 22, 2017 at 5:47 am)Godscreated Wrote: I live in a relationship with God and I see Him working in and through my life. The proof is for me not you, and you will most likely never get the kinda' proof you want because God deals with us through faith. Abraham was called righteous by God because he trust what God told him (faith). This is what God asks of us and then if we desire that deeper relationship with Him he will reveal truths to us that will only make sense to those who have trusted Him. Your rejection of Christ has left you outside in the cold with no understanding and until you decide to trust God through faith you will remain outside. Abraham trusted God in many things without question and was rewarded greatly all God ask you to do is trust in Jesus and you will receive a reward greater than anyone can imagine. Like I've said many time on this forum, first faith then belief and then knowledge, it's God's promise to His people.
GC
Now here is the thing GC.
The replies you gave above are almost exactly what i would have said to someone like me when I was a Christian (minus the hellfire and brimstone of your previous posts). I used to really believe that people 'had no understanding' and only by the spirit of god could anyone understand, and any ex-Christians had never been real Christians etc..etc... But really that is just a religions way of explaining why people realise the untruth of the ahem.. truth, and all cults do it also.
Bottom line though is that none of it is true, it is as made up as any other religion, cult, philosophy.. you name it. I know you are genuine in your belief, of that I had no doubt. But unless you can give a reason for it's truth other than you believe it to be so, then don't be surprised if others take it with a pinch of salt.
It's not my responsibility to prove God to anyone, I'm called to live a life that is holy (different and separate from the world). I'm to tell others why I believe what I do and it is for them to respond to God of their own free choice.
You believe none of what I believe is true yet you can't begin to prove what I believe is wrong. Just because other religions and cults do certain things and that you have an opinion that what I believe is wrong makes none of what you say true.
There have been preachers in the pulpit preaching for years and one day they actually hear what they are saying and realize they have never been saved. A relationship with God is much more than a mind thing, it's actually a spiritual awakening that results in a belief so deep that one will not deny it.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.