RE: Too many near death experiences
November 8, 2017 at 5:25 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2017 at 6:24 pm by GUBU.)
(November 8, 2017 at 11:59 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Can near death experience stories be made up. Are religious people on the youtube video's are willing to lie about such important things to them to others and still remain in religion? There's just too many different videos on youtube describing nde's torture's of hell . Which seems too good to be true.
The causes of "near death" experiences:
1) Lie
2) Made up but gradually became genuinely believed to be true
3) Patient wasn't as unconscious as they thought they were so experienced what was going on without realising it
4) Association of an event that happened at another time, or that the person witnessed* which got associated to the near death experience after a period of time
5) Imagined (not the same as two, as imagined is something that wasn't even originally a lie)
There are possibly quite a lot more, but I'm not willing to put the thought or the searching effort into it. But what is definitely not a reason is "the patient had a genuine out of body/near death experience".
* Which is the end result of the Sam Parnia study into supposed out of body events, a single man who a year later thought he remembered events which were, essentially, a retelling of an ER (or similarly hospital themed show like Casualty). This was after Parnia twice, during the experiment and during the data analysis, changed the outcomes he was looking for while doing the experiment.
(November 8, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Aegon Wrote:(November 8, 2017 at 12:26 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: That said these are most definitely not in the same category as hallucinations in terms of richness, clarity, complexity, and how dramatically they change the lives of those who have experienced NDE's.
Somebody hasn't tried a high dose of LSD or DMT. Hallucinations can be INCREDIBLY rich, vivid, and complex and drastically change people. NDEs are no different.
Hell, I had some weird hallucinations (mostly aural) just from living in a house alone for two weeks with virtually no outside contact (while in college I spent the majority of the christmas holidays one year staying at my digs studying for the first term exams, nobody was in the house, virtually nobody was in the estate. I think I talked to somebody else three times in fourteen days).
The mind is very good at playing tricks on itself.
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