(February 20, 2018 at 11:00 am)Joods Wrote:(February 20, 2018 at 6:17 am)Banned Wrote: You don't know enough of the Bible or God, to make such remarks. Don't leave it there, dig for the truth - really check it out.
Excuse me? Have you walked in my shoes? Lived my life or been through my personal version of hell? No, you haven't. You don't get to tell me what remarks I can make. I absolutely have the right to question that which does not make sense and there is nothing about religion that makes any sense because your god story is filled with loads of bullshit.
Nice dodge on answering my question though. Typical that you along with other theists who can't answer it, would prefer to attack me instead. Your imaginary god must be so proud of you.
I wasn't dismissing your life at all. But it is very plain from your comment that you don't have the right knowledge of the scriptures - which don't condemn you at all.
As to the question about why God created something which he knew would go west, I don't know the answer to that.
But I know that by making creatures capable of intelligent love, and a relationship which has the potential to develop with time, God was putting the whole creation at risk, especially since he made the universe to be consequential in every aspect.
What that means, is that everything from the actual materials to all intelligent life - has a full range of options in behavior, but at the same time, everything has preferences and points of attraction - the path of least resistance.
While nature follows the paths of least resistance - intelligent life, capable of love - must be able to choose against that stream, and must be in a position to have absolute freedom - the ability to not to love.
Love is not love, if there is manipulation involved - because manipulation - no matter how wonderful the experience may be - is coercion and not love.
Faith starts with nothing, but it is the only thing humans have to begin to love God.
Candy, miracles and light shows don't do it.
If the universe was made any different, it would be a game and not reality. And therefore it could only have been made once, the here and now, to be truly authentic.
If God pressed the reset button at anytime- his creation would be contrived and not pure reality.
What is more, the universe was made to be related to by God, it was made to respond to him, with or without his interaction or works. So the universe has an independence from God - an economy which runs on its own.
We could discuss how that works another time.
But the factors above, tell us that God has to deal with us and our live as they occur, and not by the codes of a fantasy or an ideal which has nothing to do with our reality.
That is why the offering of Cain - with glitz and fruit, was not acceptable to God, because it represented human idealism and not the reality of a broken love relationship with God, and the offering that God (his own demise and death) would make for the world to give it a second chance and a new life.
