(June 10, 2018 at 5:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: To prove the existence of God, you cannot start by assuming that God exists
Did not do so here.
Quote:Furthermore, you cannot take a 'feeling' as evidence for God, since that feeling (in this case, a feeling of personhood) may have other sources.
Our sense of personhood and the facts we know from it are part of the argument. Whether people actually want to go so far and say they don't actually exist, it's up to them.
Quote:Lastly, you can't *know* that personhood is not a physical thing, thus you have no basis for assuming that it is non-physical (and, even if it were, it would not be evidence for God).
That is a fact whether the source is a physical thing or not, personhood is an idea experienced....
Who we are is an idea. What we are can be both physical and idea, but who we are is not the physical body. It's in the naturalism paradigm a program idea created from the brain. But the other things we know like we don't fully know ourselves, yet, we accurately exist, and the knowledge only an absolute perfect judge can judge our actions and maintain perfect inheritance of our actions and value us accurately, is part of the argument.
It doesn't assume it's the source, it's realization with the other facts, that we know it's the source.