Intercessory prayer is pointless

[Drich]

If God is not answering your petitions learn to pray first.

Oh really ... like this Drich idiot know about god.

John 14: 14
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
ANYTHING. He said ANYTHING. He lied out his ass.

"In my name," doofus... what does that mean? It means ask for anything I would ask for or rather anything Jesus Himself would ask for... So then ask yourself what did Jesus ask for? answer? is in the "Lords prayer"/Luke 11, that is what he told his disciples when he was asked by them how to pray.

It's is like ordering a pizza for someone you can not ask for stuff on the pizza the person your order for doesn't want, nor can you rer something he did not want you to have.. You can but it then the order ceases to be his, and becomes yours. (which is up to you to make happen.. However, If you want Jesus to answer your prayer then pray as he taught us to pray, and ask for what he wants us to have!! if you want jesus to just ignore you then ask God for whatever you want.

Then further in luke 11 jesus promises to deliver the Holy Spirit when asked. So you have a whole chapter of Christ himself telling you how to ask and what to ask for in is name... How stupid are you to assume you can use his name like a credit card and get whatever you want, when clearly contextually there is a very specific way to ask and a very specific thing to ask for!!

Now when you receive the holy Spirit God can do whatever it take to cast any mountain of doubt you may have into the ocean.

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Can't save the saved.. It's not a sin to petition God, it's just God is not in the habit of filling petitions if you can't or won't also pray. It's a whole process Described by Jesus in the parable of the wise and foolish builder.

But they clearly aren't petitioning god. They are literally praying because they make that claim at the start of laying hands on the person getting prayed over. As you said - praying and petitioning are not the same.

You are right, but you can saved those who think they are saved. I been a member of christian forums since 2008.. no one thinks they have it wrong except those who know they can't possible have it right and need God to forgive them for the messed up way they worship. Ironically it is in the omission of not knowing and relying on tradition, tht makes one right with God.

The idea of the wise and foolish builder means when God abandons a faith or system of belief when the people test their faith or their faith is tested by hardship that 'god' will not be there to help them. that means their house/their faith is destroyed by the absence of God which would/should inspire those truly looking for God the opportunity to start over and try again.