RE: Elizabeth Warren impressed me
October 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm by John V.)
(October 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Specifically which claim are you referring to here?
This: "Actually, you have it wrong about what it is I believe. My mom and dad were very much in love with each other and they wanted to get married and my father’s parents said absolutely not. You can’t marry her because she’s part Cherokee and she’s part Delaware. And um, after fighting it as long as they could, my parents went off, they eloped. It was an issue in our family the whole time I grew up about these two families. It was an issue still raised at my mother’s funeral. So what I know about my parents is I know that in that little town they grew up in that my father’s parents knew enough about my mother and her family to say I have no doubts.”
Quote:The newsletter which Christopher Child reported would make Warren 1/32 Native American if her great-great-great grandmother were full blooded Native American.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...at/257415/
Quote: Supporters touted her as part Cherokee after genealogist Christopher Child of the New England Historic Genealogical Society said he'd found a marriage certificate that described her great-great-great-grandmother, who was born in the late 18th century, as a Cherokee. But that story fell apart once people looked at it more closely. The Society, it turned out, was referencing a quote by an amateur genealogist in the March 2006 Buracker & Boraker Family History Research Newsletters about an application for a marriage certificate:
Lynda Smith said, "When Neoma's son William J. Crawford married his second wife Mary LONG in Oklahoma, he stated on his marriage application that his parents were Johnathan Houston Crawford and O. C. Sarah Smith and that his mother was Cherokee Indian."
No one has surfaced that document, and there's some reason to believe it may not exist. Lynda Smith later wrote that she does not believe she ever saw it herself, according to a report by amateur genealogist Michael Patrick Leahy, who has helped lead a full court press from the right on the Warren ancestry story, along with other conservative outlets such as the Boston Herald and the blog Legal Insurrection. (Smith declined a request for comment.)
The New England Historic Genealogical Society backtracked on Warren's ancestry in a statement Tuesday, saying the group has "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent" and that the Society "has not expressed a position on whether Mrs. Warren has Native American ancestry, nor do we possess any primary sources to prove that she is."
Quote:However that's not necessarily what the newsletter indicates, but only that she was listed as Cherokee on a marriage document, which could easily be true if she was only half-blooded. If that were the case, that would make Elizabeth Warren 1/64 Native American (presumably) which falls within the parameters of the DNA test which indicated she had between 1/64th and 1/1024th Native American ancestry (~ Boston Globe). The article also notes that it is possible that the test missed an ancestor, and that Bustamante was regarded as one of the leading DNA experts in the world. Rather than get ahead of myself, I'll wait for you to produce the claim that you are disputing. However, if it is the claim that Warren's great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American, it would appear that you are simply wrong on that.
No, it would appear that you're accepting hearsay regarding a document that no one can find.