(February 18, 2019 at 2:31 pm)LastPoet Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Well it doesn't look like an oath to Hitler at all, since the pledge of allegiance isn't to a person. I'm not a big fan of the pledge because I think that it is wrong to take oaths from children. I never took an oath until I joined the Air Force. The pledge isn't indoctrination, because it isn't followed up with anything doctrinal. So the students really do just see it as meaningless words. Being from a culture where oaths are a super serious thing, I see a problem with the pledge trivializing the entire concept of oaths. When some kid spends 13 years repeating an oath every day that they see as being meaningless, I don't know if I can take their word for anything or not.
Only to your rather previleged eyes. Were I am from, its even against the constitution to make someone take pledges. You can excuse your state of mind, by the grandeur of your nation.
It is not really patriotic. It is nationalistic. But that young nation, that once shone as a beacon of liberty and freedon still have to learn a valuable lesson distinguishing patriotic and nationalistic. Too bad, but it's bound to happen by the looks of it
What part of I never took an oath until I joined the Air Force didn't you understand? I never said the pledge when I went to school. No one made me. No one makes anyone say the pledge. I did stand while others were saying it, so as not to be disrespectful to them.
And if a teacher told me to stand up, I most certainly stood up because a teacher absolutely has the authority to give basic commands like stand up, sit down, be quiet, and go to the principal's office. And if the kid won't obey those basic commands, then someone should make their parents eat a rock.
We do not inherit the world from our parents. We borrow it from our children.
