RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
June 5, 2020 at 8:18 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2020 at 8:33 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Failing to stick the dualist landing, we're now arguing for supernatural monism.
Why is it that scientists are the only people who can't comment on the non-sensible world™? Do philosophers possess non-sensible senses?
All cognitive propositions can be true or false. Science supplies sound propositions that we employ to make such a determination through logical inference. As to whether or not the rules of logical inference are testable, or the rules of mathematics....
I suppose that we could see whether or not adding four coins to three coins ever gives us ten coins. We could check and see whether or not there are any married bachelors. How, exactly, do you think that we arrived at the current rules of logical inference? Do we imagine that they're now complete? If they aren't, or if some portion is in error, how do you imagine that we'll arrive at this realization, one which we have arrived at many times in the past? In context of logic and math, both. Oh sure...sure sure sure, the systems of logic and math are good at producing positivist statements to support any given position, but do they also produce falsifiable statements? This would be a competent application of popper et als pancritical philosophy.
Logic tells us that a thing cannot be itself and not itself. From this it follows that a thing cannot be natural and other than natural, or vv. How certain are we that the law of identity is an accurate description of how reality functions? Let's see some commitments, so we know exactly what it is we're discussing, and what an acceptable metric of truth or knowledge to those claims might be, between us, lol.
Why is it that scientists are the only people who can't comment on the non-sensible world™? Do philosophers possess non-sensible senses?
All cognitive propositions can be true or false. Science supplies sound propositions that we employ to make such a determination through logical inference. As to whether or not the rules of logical inference are testable, or the rules of mathematics....
I suppose that we could see whether or not adding four coins to three coins ever gives us ten coins. We could check and see whether or not there are any married bachelors. How, exactly, do you think that we arrived at the current rules of logical inference? Do we imagine that they're now complete? If they aren't, or if some portion is in error, how do you imagine that we'll arrive at this realization, one which we have arrived at many times in the past? In context of logic and math, both. Oh sure...sure sure sure, the systems of logic and math are good at producing positivist statements to support any given position, but do they also produce falsifiable statements? This would be a competent application of popper et als pancritical philosophy.
Logic tells us that a thing cannot be itself and not itself. From this it follows that a thing cannot be natural and other than natural, or vv. How certain are we that the law of identity is an accurate description of how reality functions? Let's see some commitments, so we know exactly what it is we're discussing, and what an acceptable metric of truth or knowledge to those claims might be, between us, lol.
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