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One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 21, 2020 at 1:49 am)Paleophyte Wrote:
(May 15, 2020 at 5:45 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings.

This is neither clear nor precise.

"barefooted, destitute goat-herds" could refer to any of a huge range of people, including Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. The only requirements are that they be poor, barefoot, and herd goats. Based on your "Muhammed was speaking to savage bumpkins" line of argument we could easily include the Aztec, Inca, and the Myans by virtue of the fact that one cannot expect Muhammed's audience to know what an alpaca is.

Why do you equate "magnificent" with tall? Compensating for some short-comings? This term is neither clear nor precise and indicates only that the building is impressive in some aspect.

Clearly this prophecy refers to the Inca and Machu Picchu. Or was it the Ming Dynasty and the Forbidden City? Perhaps Moshe Aviv Tower?

A clear and precise prophecy would have read something like: "Your descendants shall become wealthy beyond your imagination (well, some of them) and 1200 years hence they shall build an enormous city on the shores of the ocean as far to the east of Hajr (Riyadh) as Medina is to the west where today there is naught but a caravan station. And in this city they shall build a tower unto the heavens 500 times taller than a man, with a magnificent fountain at its base with waters that shall leap into the air 30 times higher than the tallest man."

See, even I can manage to explain that to the primitives that your Prophet hoodwinked. The only word they might have trouble with in that is "fountain".

It would be easy to inspire words that had meaning to the people living in time of prophecy, even the fountains could have something like 'water rose up into the air for decoration'' and it could have also mentioned how they became wealthy for instance from ''a black liquid from the ground that many sought and was worth much money''

(May 17, 2020 at 3:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(May 15, 2020 at 6:24 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Are you really that stupid, guys ?

Muhammad was talking to people who lived fourteen centuries ago, they had no idea what "governments and corporations" would mean, had Muhammad used these terms. Muhammad's contemporaries know what herding and goats mean, they didn't know much about corporations and embassies. So the expression "barefoot destitute goat herds" merely refers to the geographical area where his prediction is supposed to happen, because, obviously, nobody builds things while barefoot.

It's really stupid to try and interpret the words "barefoot" and "destitute" literally, even more so when thay are attempts of translation from their more expressive equivalents in Arabic.

“How dare people interpret the book using the words that are in the book! Obviously it means something other than what it obviously means, or else it’d be wrong!”

The clear meaning is the the very unclear interpretation .. clearly
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many - by possibletarian - May 21, 2020 at 11:00 am

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