(May 21, 2020 at 4:39 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:Also Mo could have brought up the building were made of metal and glass . He could have replaced shepherds with wealthy merchants who draw their wealth from beneath the sands as oils black as night . Or described modern cities with chariots that moved without horses or chariots that could fly. So mant details he could have added that WOULD be understandable to people back then(May 21, 2020 at 1:49 am)Paleophyte Wrote: This is neither clear nor precise.He will also bring up Camels but i point out those have been exported everywhere . He will also talking about competing but again that's been going on forever with grand buildings . So nothing clear at all
"barefooted, destitute goat-herds" could refer to any of a huge range of people, including Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, etc. The only requirements are that they be poor, barefoot, and herd goats. Based on your "Muhammed was speaking to savage bumpkins" line of argument we could easily include the Aztec, Inca, and the Myans by virtue of the fact that one cannot expect Muhammed's audience to know what an alpaca is.
Why do you equate "magnificent" with tall? Compensating for some short-comings? This term is neither clear nor precise and indicates only that the building is impressive in some aspect.
Clearly this prophecy refers to the Inca and Machu Picchu. Or was it the Ming Dynasty and the Forbidden City? Perhaps Moshe Aviv Tower?
A clear and precise prophecy would have read something like: "Your descendants shall become wealthy beyond your imagination (well, some of them) and 1200 years hence they shall build an enormous city on the shores of the ocean as far to the east of Hajr (Riyadh) as Medina is to the west where today there is naught but a caravan station. And in this city they shall build a tower unto the heavens 500 times taller than a man, with a magnificent fountain at its base with waters that shall leap into the air 30 times higher than the tallest man."
See, even I can manage to explain that to the primitives that your Prophet hoodwinked. The only word they might have trouble with in that is "fountain".
Same goes for he plague
He could have distinguished it from the one Moses summoned on Egypt . He could have could have mentioned it was the plague that ravaged the lands of Justinian . He could have mentioned the symptoms . He would still be wrong of course because by dictionary definition Cholera is a plague
Quote:A plague is a very infectious disease that spreads quickly and kills large numbers of people.And i don't care if Klor rejects dictionary definitions out of convenience . IT'S A VALID DEFINITION !
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM