RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
July 31, 2020 at 5:21 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2020 at 5:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Do you, or can you, Tack...conceive of anything in the described character of the jesus of the new testament - outside of it's own idiosyncratic definitions of sinfulness and wrongness, righteousness and goodness, that gives you pause?
Things that you struggle with, things that produce the dark night of the soul for you. Things that, even if you don't ultimately agree with some other person who offers a more explicitly negative assessment, you can at least understand?
When people point out issues with the man described in the new testament, do you really believe that every instance is an issue of a person not knowing enough about something and being wrong?
Or, to use the mustard seed example above, is the problem truly some issue of vernacular, or can you entertain that even in the poetic interpretation of the verse, that people who certainly do possess the proverbial mountain of faith can be as incapable of moving poetic mountains as those who have the proverbial mustard seed? That this statement, in any context, and in any interpretation, was plain and simply wrong? That the promise made by the character in the narrative is not an accurate description of reality, of any reasonable expectation of outcomes.
We can use me as an example. I have the proverbial and literal mountain of faith in murrica. Do you see me moving anything? Do you truly believe that I could? Does faith, faith in anything, do what the character says it does? Is that a true statement of how reality is, an ability we have, or is it how we wish it to be, and ability we desire for faith even if faith does not actually possess it? Is there no danger, practical or moral or otherwise, in fobbing off such a lie as the truth from a gods lips to our ears?
Things that you struggle with, things that produce the dark night of the soul for you. Things that, even if you don't ultimately agree with some other person who offers a more explicitly negative assessment, you can at least understand?
When people point out issues with the man described in the new testament, do you really believe that every instance is an issue of a person not knowing enough about something and being wrong?
Or, to use the mustard seed example above, is the problem truly some issue of vernacular, or can you entertain that even in the poetic interpretation of the verse, that people who certainly do possess the proverbial mountain of faith can be as incapable of moving poetic mountains as those who have the proverbial mustard seed? That this statement, in any context, and in any interpretation, was plain and simply wrong? That the promise made by the character in the narrative is not an accurate description of reality, of any reasonable expectation of outcomes.
We can use me as an example. I have the proverbial and literal mountain of faith in murrica. Do you see me moving anything? Do you truly believe that I could? Does faith, faith in anything, do what the character says it does? Is that a true statement of how reality is, an ability we have, or is it how we wish it to be, and ability we desire for faith even if faith does not actually possess it? Is there no danger, practical or moral or otherwise, in fobbing off such a lie as the truth from a gods lips to our ears?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
