RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
August 13, 2020 at 5:11 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2020 at 5:22 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 12, 2020 at 11:39 pm)Grandizer Wrote:That's cool, but...as above, the observation that sacrificial gods are a thing is not the claim that christians copied those gods. They never would have known about the sacrificial pantheons of mesoamerica. Couldn't possibly have copied them, nor could the mesoamericans have known about christ and copied those beliefs.(August 12, 2020 at 9:27 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm pretty sure he was responding to a comment about the claimed uniqueness of the christian god.
Regardless of whether christians copied other narratives or not, that's not the case. We can state, if we like, that many people over lots of time and geography came up with the type of salvific figure found in the NT all on their own - the NT being one example of it. We do that alot, with objects and ideas.
By stating specifically that there were prior examples of figures who died for other people and then were resurrected. I just wonder where are these examples? Or rather what primary sources reveal those to be the case.
I agree nothing is truly unique about Christianity. Views evolve over time, yes, so one could argue that the resurrection of Jesus was derived from certain prior beliefs or whatever, but it doesn't mean they were based on some prior identical accounts of resurrections or that such prior accounts exist.
Multiple instances of parallel construction. Like a bow. Like fire. Like boats. Like agriculture. Like a fishing hook. This isn't evolution over time, it's not evolution at all.
This is a generous appraisal, as we know for fact that christian authors were borrowers - but there's nothing wrong with that. OFC they were going to borrow stories and twists and phrases they found engaging. They borrowed the jewish god right from the outset, lol. Is there a hellenic influence in the character of christ, for example? OFC there is, but there was always going to be one, because hellenists came up with that particular instance of a sacrificial god. If some other current was dominant it would show those influences, and in fact does, in the argument within the NT as to who and what jesus is.
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