RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
August 31, 2020 at 12:03 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2020 at 12:11 am by The Grand Nudger.)
-there's the rub, you're looking at this like an argument.
The authentic pauline epistles are only authentic, and pauline, because we believe that a single person wrote them and we may as well call that person paul. That's it, that's all, that's all that the phrase authentic pauline epistle means. That's the entire consensus of scholarship on pauls historicity. There is no consensus that the paul of the nt, even of the authentic epistles, is a historic character.
That they were written by a single author is no guarantee of their contents, and while miracle stories are dismissed out of hand - the damascus road incident may not be history. The conversion of paul as a theological device is a thing, and...as before, it's not really an argument against things dismissed out of hand, but it is important to the historic development of the christian religion. What's happening here, instead, seems something like an argument over whether hercules family was really killed by, say, a stray dog.
Let me ask you this - in your experience, if some nutbar leads into his god pitch with "I used to be just like you, then I saw the light", is seeing the light the most important little white lie, or is the preamble?
The authentic pauline epistles are only authentic, and pauline, because we believe that a single person wrote them and we may as well call that person paul. That's it, that's all, that's all that the phrase authentic pauline epistle means. That's the entire consensus of scholarship on pauls historicity. There is no consensus that the paul of the nt, even of the authentic epistles, is a historic character.
That they were written by a single author is no guarantee of their contents, and while miracle stories are dismissed out of hand - the damascus road incident may not be history. The conversion of paul as a theological device is a thing, and...as before, it's not really an argument against things dismissed out of hand, but it is important to the historic development of the christian religion. What's happening here, instead, seems something like an argument over whether hercules family was really killed by, say, a stray dog.
Let me ask you this - in your experience, if some nutbar leads into his god pitch with "I used to be just like you, then I saw the light", is seeing the light the most important little white lie, or is the preamble?
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