Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study

[Drich]

I'm going to be quick to the point: the things that seem to be of supreme importance to the Evangelicals were neither important to Jesus nor his father, Yahweh. Also, things that were important to Jesus do not seem to be important to the Evangelicals. 


Jesus never discussed the issue of abortion and the Old Testament makes it clear that abortion is not something that Yahweh disapproves of.

well he said murder is wrong... and the whole treat others the way you want to be treated: Ie, don't murder/abort someone if you yourself do not want to be murdered aborted. so there is that. Plus you guys look for rules like the ot lays out rules. christ only gave two saying his new rule set was the completion of the law. meaning the whole law was represented by two rules not so that means everything is filtered through love God with all your being and your neighbor as yourself.

Exodus 21:22-25 Tells us that hitting a woman and causing her to miscarry (a natural abortion) is punishable with a fine while murder is punishable by death.

again new testament new law. don't murder a baby unless you want to be murdered.

Numbers 5:13-31 Tells us what a husband should do if he suspects his wife is pregnant with another man's child. He should take her to the priest who will gather dust from the tabernacle and mix it with water. She must drink this concoction. If she miscarries, it means she was unfaithful. Now, I'm not a doctor and can't testify as to the health risks of a pregnant woman drinking dirt-water, if that actually could cause a miscarriage, but the message of these verses are clear. The priest is potentially performing a metaphysical abortion on her without her choice being involved.

again you are looking for a completely different religion to spell out rules like the ot jews had. christ completed the law giving us a new law which only contain two rules that represented what one should do when confronted with any part of the old law. you only have these problems of understanding because you pretend/do not truly understand there are two different religions being represented here.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 Makes it clear that even post-birth children have no rights. The father can have one stoned to death in the public square just by announcing that his son is rebellious.

two which christ countered he who is without sin cast the first stone..
Again treat others as you want to be treated covers all of this.

The only verse the pro-lifers can manage to find is a passage in Jeremiah 1:5 which is wrenched out of context. "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you" which speaks of Yahweh's ability to see into the future, that Jeremiah would be successfully born and grow up to be a prophet.

Do Evangelicals still fret anymore about marriage being between "one man and one woman" or have they come to finally accept gay marriage?

sanctified marriage is the key.. sanctified meaning you make an oath before God, and he approves. God only approves a marriage union between man and woman. there are no other examples of sanctified marriage.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/sanctified that mean gay marriage is a function of man and not an oath gay people have an option to take before God. sorry but homosexual sex is still a sin. as all sex outside a sanctified marriage is. even the thought of it according to christ.

In case it's still an issue for them, "one man and one woman" appears nowhere in the Bible. In fact, the Old Testament is filled to the brim with examples of the prophets taking multiple wives, along with some "concubines" on the side. If Yahweh valued a strictly monogamous marriage, clearly his "chosen people" never got the memo.

1/2 truth= whole liar. man and woman appears in the bible as being the only case for a marriage god approves.

1Kings 15:5 tells us that King David did not sin in the eyes of Yahweh except for the matter with Uriah and his wife. The number of wives that David has is never calculated in the Bible but it was more than several. Apparently, Yahweh had no problem with David having multiple wives. He also apparently had a gay relationship with Johnathan but that's a matter of interpretation.

apples and oranges/misdirection/red herring. because the subject matter is homosexual marriage, not number of spouses. to which despite the number of women david was married to at one time the only relevant point to this discussion of gay marriage is all his partners were born female.. Hence sanctified marriage.

Deuteronomy 21:15-17 tells us how to treat the children of multiple wives in case one is "beloved" and the other "hated". This is a divine regulation of the practice of polygamy. Such regulation is a tacit endorsement of the practice, since Yahweh could have just as easily written "don't do this".

the world needed men who could afford to have as many children as possible in that time because high child mortality rate and the majority of the population could not afford to have children at all meaning the literally would starve to death... there was no government welfare programs. either you could afford to have a wife and a child or you couldn't in the cases of very wealthy men and kings they could afford to have many by many different women, which is why man kind today enjoys being on top of the food chain. one had to have children to work the fields keep the animals process and cook food even as a personal guard/army. try and imagine a post apocalyptic world where people had to do whatever they could to survive.. where the rules and morals of today was a death sentence. now place that mad max environment in the past where and when these men lived. if you can do that all your B/S morality questions get answered. this was a time where man's survival or even prominence as the alpha creature on the planet was in question, and then roll in starvation disease and the harshest living environments.. this answers why a man would want/need as many wives and children he could afford. and why he would pick favorites... because he did not live the sedentary life you do. because he could not afford your morality, because he could not risk survival of his whole clan on stupid principles people who live so disconnected from the way he lived they can not even imagine a time where his choices were for the good of the species...

Jesus never said anything about either abortion or gay rights. He did, however, spend a lot of time talking about the things that liberals like. He denounced greed. He instructed us to care for the poor and unfortunate. He healed the sick. He preached a message of peace.

again person with very poor observational skills, jesus never gave any specific rules outside the two. gay sex falls under love God as God has made a rule about all sex only being valid in a sanctified marriage, abortion falls under do not murder, and treat others as you would like to be treated.

In sum, the Evangelicals either need to reevaluate their priorities or find another religion. This Jesus they claim to follow was a socialist hippy.

i think you need to pull the B/S out of your own eye/what is keeping you from seeing the obvious truth, before you worry about the evangelicals.