(October 25, 2020 at 6:58 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Problem is that Jesus did not speak them. Third generation Christians came along put those words on his lips.
Sure, considering that the only historical person on which Jesus was based was when Mark borrowed the trial from Josephus's story of Jesus ben-Ananias. Ben-Ananias preached about the soon-coming judgment, the destruction of the temple, and the end of ordinary life, for example, weddings (Matthew 24:38). Ben-Ananias was then hauled before the Roman procurator, who interrogated him but got only silence for an answer, and was ultimately let go with little flogging.
So if you consider Jesus ben-Ananias as historical Jesus then Jesus didn't say any of that, but again, almost everything Jesus "said" was copied from the old testament, and perhaps the bigger question is: what makes someone who constantly quotes what other people said special?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
