Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.

[Greatest I am]

I gave example in the O.P.

It is clear that we are naturally inclined to sin, in the sense of creating victims when we compete and win. That is the only reason for the human to human evils we do.

If Jesus/Yahweh did not want us to sin, he would not have put Satan in Eden to insure we did and Christians could not call Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

Simple logic and reason.

Are you a sinner, as described as a competitor in life,  and can you help it?

Use evil if you cannot use the word sin.

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DL

No, you did not give an example where Jesus sinning is good. If you have one, trot it out.

Boru

There was no Jesus god man. I hold no supernatural beliefs.

From the Christian perspective, If Jesus was willing to die for my sins, I would not waste his death by not being born a sinner the way scriptures, and nature, say we are.


Jesus himself sinned, as well as Yahweh with his murder of so many. Remember they are just one god to the literalist thinkers, be it foolish or not.


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DL

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I think he's referring to felix culpa, not so much something jesus said as a thing that has found itself expressed in christian literature since, well..christianity.

It mirrors the alleged necessity of christs gruesome death as ransom.  That there are bad things which lead to, or are necessary to, gods good plan.  This, in sum, makes them good things.  The relationship between jesus and judas in new magic book is a play on this theme.

Insightful.

Jews just say Eden was a success for both man and god, while Christians see both man and god as losers who cannot get things right.

Jews brand Eden Original Virtue, while Christians brand it Original Sin.

Christians usurped the Jewish god but scrapped the ideology.

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DL 

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DL

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GIA is a christian.  He's not looking to dismantle any of it's tenets.  More that he's imploring christians to fully explore and dive into them.  If sin is, as christians have long insisted, a happy fault, and if we gain a christ (or christian) consciousness by acknowledging our sin™ (and sin in such a hilariously christian way) this is not a rejection of christian belief - it's a full throated reaffirmation.

God damn I would like you in every post.

You partially get what I am into.

One thing though. 

Please do not call me a Christian. I am a Gnostic Christian.

Basically the opposite of Christianity's interpretations of the bible.

They end in the idol worship of a genocidal prick while we have consigned that Yahweh to hell where he belongs.

Not that there is a hell. We hold no supernatural beliefs.

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DL

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Í don't accept the premise of 'sin' as usually represented in Christian theology.

I don't either and use evil when speaking of what we are all born to do to each other thanks to being evolving creatures.

That harming or doing evil to the losers of those competitions is what the loser must suffer.

Not a lot of harm these days with our safety nets, --- but in the old days when they had none,  --- you or I winning when we compete could have the loser starve to death.

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DL