RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
November 11, 2020 at 11:37 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2020 at 11:44 am by MilesAbbott81.)
(November 11, 2020 at 11:32 am)Eleven Wrote:(November 11, 2020 at 11:29 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: That is the flesh speaking. You see God as dictator because you want to rule on His throne.
Please, if this is the beginning of your nonsensical speech, I did not have to read the rest. Which I did not.
Try something other than irrational servitude, and then you might be taken seriously.
You merely prove my point, Eleven. You are so violently opposed to the concept of "servitude" that you're unwilling even to read a small post of mine. Now who is the irrational one, again?
(November 11, 2020 at 11:35 am)Angrboda Wrote:(November 11, 2020 at 11:19 am)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: As for your other question, I'm not familiar with Plantinga's free will defense, so I'm afraid I can't thoroughly answer, except to say that free will is an illusion, and that we all behave badly except by the grace of God, so we are automatically all immoral and can't even make a decision to be anything other than that. We're rotten to the core. I don't see how the argument can be applied to God.
That's rather interesting. I must ask how that squares with our being made in the image of God if he possesses such a fundamental attribute as free will and we don't?
It applies because God can't sin. It would seem a consequence of Plantinga's argument then that God's choices have no moral significance, including Christ's sacrifice. Do you see it now?
Yes, you do make an interesting point, one I've often wondered at myself. If God can't sin, then why must we? Why can't He just make us like Himself, inherently knowing the difference between good and evil and able to choose good?
The answer I believe I've been given is that no one is like God. That's something we must accept at some point, even though we'd prefer it weren't the case. It would be great to be like God, but there can only be one God.
Because of this, it seems to me that this process He is putting us through must be the only way to be made in His image. If there were an easier way to accomplish the same thing, do you not think He would prefer to avoid the misery? After all, do you think anyone wants to be crucified?
Also, consider Who God is, and how gravely serious a thing it is to be made in His image...it's no wonder David said he was "fearfully and wonderfully made."