RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
November 11, 2020 at 11:50 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2020 at 12:02 pm by MilesAbbott81.)
(November 11, 2020 at 11:35 am)Angrboda Wrote: That's rather interesting. I must ask how that squares with our being made in the image of God if he possesses such a fundamental attribute as free will and we don't?
It applies because God can't sin. It would seem a consequence of Plantinga's argument then that God's choices have no moral significance, including Christ's sacrifice. Do you see it now?
I realize now that I may not have answered you clearly/correctly. Just because we don't have free will now doesn't mean we will never have free will. Once we are One with Jesus Christ, our will is free, being aligned with His will, which is free.
And I'm not sure about how Plantinga's argument is framed. Does he apply his moral choices of significance to God the same as human beings? If so, why? We're not the same as God, not in the same boat at all, really. Two completely different situations I think.
(November 11, 2020 at 11:48 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: MilesAbbott81, people are simply trying to test your claim that God is good. And your explanation that God does evil for good makes no sense or that he gives babies cancer for good that we don't understand is nothing more than a logical fallacy by which you can make anyone be good; like Hitler was a good guy because he killed all those millions of people for good that we don't yet understand.Are you really so simple-minded that you can't make a distinction between Hitler and God, one being a mere man and the other the omnipotent Creator of the universe?
God uses evil to punish evil, and to punish evil is to do good. God used Hitler to punish those who deserved it - not deserved from Hitler's perspective but from God's. God subsequently destroyed Hitler for what He did to the Jews with the Allied powers, because Hitler had evil intentions and was therefore in sin.
Much good came out of World War 2, even if it's difficult to see considering the level of carnage. But that's the problem with the limited perspective of the impenitent and ignorant sinner. You can only see the negative because that's all you want to see. You want God to be the villain because you want to serve yourself, not Him.