RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
June 12, 2021 at 12:31 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2021 at 12:45 pm by WinterHold.)
(June 11, 2021 at 7:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You do realize that we're not made of clay, right winter....? Anywho, last I checked, allah didn't own me, so there seems to be a few things that aren't his. I presume that he knows where I live if he cares to register a complaint about his claim to my status as human chattel.
We are made of stardust + water. That's pretty much a type of "clay".
Actually your creator "is your owner"; I owe it to the minerals composing my body -stardust and H2O-, along with the classy unmatched evolutionary pathway that turned me and my ancestors to humans through millions of years of constant evolution. Identical to what Noah said to his people once:
Quote:Sura 71, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 13 ) What is with you that you do not attribute to Allah grandeur
( 14 ) While He has created you in stages?
( 15 ) Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers
( 16 ) And made the moon therein a [reflected] light and made the sun a burning lamp?
( 17 ) And Allah has caused you to grow from the earth a [progressive] growth.
( 18 ) Then He will return you into it and extract you [another] extraction.
(June 12, 2021 at 9:44 am)purplepurpose Wrote:(June 11, 2021 at 7:15 pm)WinterHold Wrote: He doesn't work under God. God created him and gave him the choice to either rebel or submit:
Satan was a righteous being once upon a time as it seems to the level of him attending with the angels themselves. But God "tested him" with "Adam's creation". Satan was extremely racist and couldn't handle prostrating to a creature made of clay -Satan is made out of fire-.
He failed his test and chose to go on this eternal crusade against mankind to drag them into hell with him.
God knew he will choose this before he created him, he knows our destinies and our future; that's a corner of faith in Islam's message.
So no, God is "a creator of all things including evil", but he is not evil, actually he wrote mercy upon himself:
Satan will burn in hell forever? Are non believers will get the same treatment - endless pain? According to Islam.
I believe that hell is not eternal, but very very very very long. Suffering in it will take Billions of years.
I based my faith on this Quranic verse:
Quote:Sura 40, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 10 ) Indeed, those who disbelieve will be addressed, "The hatred of Allah for you was [even] greater than your hatred of yourselves [this Day in Hell] when you were invited to faith, but you refused."
( 11 ) They will say, "Our Lord, You made us lifeless twice and gave us life twice, and we have confessed our sins. So is there to an exit any way?"
( 12 ) [They will be told], "That is because, when Allah was called upon alone, you disbelieved; but if others were associated with Him, you believed. So the judgement is with Allah, the Most High, the Grand."
I wrote a topic about it in the past:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-60386.html
and
https://atheistforums.org/thread-60458.html
Non believers would not spend an eternity in hell. But they will spend a duration like .
Enough for them to die in the afterlife, maybe falling into a black hole or something.