RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 4, 2021 at 12:20 am
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2021 at 12:25 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 3, 2021 at 5:18 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:As ever, the thing you think stands in contradiction to fact. For better or for worse....and regardless of whether there is a god, and regardless of whether or not you believe that god belief is natural...whatever that means... it will remain a fact that the strongest predictor of religiousity and even specific beliefs..is whether or not they were held by your parents.
(October 3, 2021 at 4:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Incorrect. The vast majority of people who believe in gods do so because their parents believed in gods.
That's not true I think. Believing in God comes naturally to many people, and it doesn't have anything to do with their parents' beliefs.
Quote:Why would I agree to that? As far as I can tell, gods aren't capable of doing anything - but, again, if you'd like to point out where god touches the genetics, you're free to do so...and if you would prefer to assert that genetics "takes care of things", instead, then you can no longer point to any need for god in genetics or fish. As for you, why should you point it out? Because you're the one who asserted as much, numbskull.(October 3, 2021 at 4:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you want to assert that god guides evolution in any way... you can just point out the place where god touches the genetics.
Why? Why should I point out precisely where or how God intervened? You surely would agree that a deity can create a self sufficient world where genetics take care of things...
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(October 3, 2021 at 4:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: and, if you want to insist on the appearance of this or that...that's fine too..but you'll have to do without the notion that the god hypothesis is not an empirically testable claim.
Now you're absolutely mistaken about this one. God (as in traditional belief systems) has purportedly rare direct manifestations in the material world, and may do so exclusively through miracles. Miracles are rarely occuring events by definition. An empirically testable claim has to be about repeatable, even reproducible phenomena. A divine miracle is not repeatable nor reproducible.
And because of that, the god hypothesis cannot be an empirically testable claim. This is a textbook category mistake. Ah.. and a nice attempt to strawman, also.
If you say that the god hypothesis is not empirically testable, then it isn't testable by the way things appear. Your fish argument fails, according to you.
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