RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 1, 2021 at 11:07 pm
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2021 at 11:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 1, 2021 at 10:50 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:Then there's your trouble, the rest of this post being yet another demonstration to that effect.(November 1, 2021 at 10:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Maybe it is possible for me to precede my mothers existence..but I don't need to know that yay or nay to know my mother exists or persuasively and competently argue for her existence.. So too, if there's a god..there's a god regardless of what the case with causality turns out to be and regardless of whether that god or gods had any relation to it such as the one you conceive for your own.
Causality being valid doesn't suggest or imply anything about gods..and if you want to argue for some gods..you're probably going to have pick something that does. Doesn't that make sense?
No, it really doesn't make any sense.....
Quote:You can basically say the same thing about any argument about anything. Sure, an argument doesn't introduce things into existence... Clearly, an argument is directed to the opponent who disagrees with you on some given assertion, not to the object of the argument....No, I can't say the same thing about anything. There are things that do suggest or imply other things. I noted that nothing about the nature of causality or the validity of the concept suggests or implies anything about a god...explicitly and specifically.
A psychiatrist arguing with a psychotic patient about the existence of external reality is clearly irrelevant to the latter's existence... it's still a useful argument because the patient simply rejects this trivial matter..
Oh, and no, you can't precede your mother's existence... Thank God causality works.
If you intend to argue for a god, it would be more compelling if you argued from something which did suggest or imply a god. If you want to concern troll people about whether they accept classical notions of causality..then there's no use pretending that you're having an argument about gods. It's a clumsy attempt to steal the credibility of an unrelated idea, presumably because your unrelated idea has no credibility of it's own.
If I had to guess.
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