RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 1, 2021 at 11:28 pm
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2021 at 11:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 1, 2021 at 11:21 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:To make a long story short, I think that cosmological arguments are trash, and of no utility in establishing the existence of gods even if they weren't. It's just your silly god, Kloro - the vast majority of gods are not creator gods and don't have to be..to be gods, or to be existent gods. Tell me, does anything about causality establish or disprove Venus' existence?(November 1, 2021 at 11:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No, I can't say the same thing about anything. There are things that do suggest or imply other things. I noted that nothing about the nature of causality or the validity of the concept suggests or implies anything about a god...explicitly and specifically.
Can't believe I am reading this.... does the first premise of the cosmological argument ring any bells ....? Aquinas's second way ..stil nothing? What are you doing to these huge chunks of literature lengthily discussing efficient causes and causal chains....... ? needless to say that causality is fundamental in at least many traditional arguments for God's existence.
Quote:It seems you're looking for some short proof for a God. If the only thing you accept as proof of a deity is A implies B without some intermediary steps, lemmas, corollaries, etc. then you might be disappointed.I'm not looking for any proof of god, Kloro....but you are here trying to communicate one to us. A little more effort might help.
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