RE: First Council of Nicaea: when Christianity was deformed and Jesus named son of God.
September 19, 2021 at 9:58 am
(September 19, 2021 at 9:46 am)WinterHold Wrote:(September 19, 2021 at 7:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m not sure why you’re dragging the Synod of Hippo into this, but ok.
While heresy is definitional, the application of the term depends on who is doing the applying. So yes, both Catholics and Protestants are heretics in the view of the other franchise, just as Sunnis and Shiites may view each other as heretics (and both may view YOU as a heretic for your rejection of the aHadith). But as I said earlier, a charge of heresy doesn’t - by itself - mean that the heretical view is necessarily wrong. Put another way, you can be declared a heretic and still be right.
Your position that religious conflict leads to bloodshed is roughly on a part with predicting that water is wet.
Boru
To prove that "oppression" and "filtering" of certain information/or adding new data, from and to holy books was present and carried on by the "Christian Religious Institution" with both of its Eastern and Western churches.
How does the charge of heresy "fair" in an environment dictated by the strong? any new opinion that doesn't get approval of the "dogma of priests and the emperor/king" will be "killed and outlawed-butchered".
My position on religious conflict is not built on "religion or even history"; but built on knowledge with the humankind: 2 men that keep arguing will soon explode if the argument is not settled.
"Not settled".
It never will be "settled". Humans like all other life live in competition for resources. The best humans can do is to realize we are not special, and there is no Jesus/Allah/Yahweh/ABBA magically controlling the universe.
When you say "not settled", what you really mean is humans should submit to Allah and then everything will be ok. I'll make you a deal Atlass, if you can show me a 13.8 billion year old Koran, physically in real life, scientifically verified, I will concede.
But I think that is as likely as finding a 13.8 billion year old Bible or 13.8 billion year old copy of ABBA's first album Waterloo.
Maybe if humans want more peace and less violence, maybe the world's population needs to consider that religion is just personal mental masturbation. Maybe if you consider that the person on the other side of the planet, like you, needs food, and doesn't want to die, like you don't want to die?
