(June 2, 2011 at 4:25 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Apparently I get my history from the same place Univerisity of Kings College does. Sorry if that offends you.
You know, I have noticed an awful habit among creationists of claiming they have offended debate opponents when clearly being offended is not their positions. It is almost as if you want to be able to offend opponents. I assure you, I am not offended. Baffled, perhaps . . .
(June 2, 2011 at 4:25 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I was not including Germany in the bloodbath quote, I was including the Soviet Union, Cambodia, and Chinda. Although there 3rd reich was loaded with atheists as well as theists so I saw that as a bit of a wash.
I believe you said "atheist nations" in your original post on the subject. Now, you are using the term "regime." (see below) Cambodia, China and the Soviet Union are not and were not atheist nations. There is no such thing as an "atheist nation." However, we have had this discussion before and I don't want to read your biased statements on the subject again. No offense.
(June 2, 2011 at 4:25 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: You guys always point to the crusades and inquisition which of course happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago and pale in comparison to the atrocities committeed in the 20th century by atheistic regimes.
They pale in comparison? You can't be serious. A. The atrocities you speak of were not committed in the name of atheism. Christians cannot say the same about the Crusades and Inquisitions. B. Time makes no difference. The beginning middle and current status of your religion has been one peppered with violence, hatred and bigotry. Some Christians choose to ignore it, some embrace it.
(June 2, 2011 at 4:25 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: More people were killed in cambodia on one day than were ever killed in the inquistion. I think comparing a dixie cup to the ocean is a bit of a cowardly game myself. You also seem to forget that the abolishionist movement was let by Christians. Not why dropping atomic bombs is somehow magically worse than leveling the same cities with normal bombs.
Again, there was more than one Inquisition. Please provide sources for this outrageous claim that more people were killed in Cambodia in one day than in the Inquisitions. Furthermore, the abolitionist movement was not led by Christians. That is another absurd assumption. Sure, some were Christian, but to say all were is just something you are pulling out of your ass. Oh, and atomic bombs wreak havoc for untold years to come. Survivors are still casualties. Their children become casualties, and so on. The difference is obvious.
(June 2, 2011 at 4:25 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Since nobody on here has ever answered this maybe you can, given your atheistic world view, why is slavery and dropping bombs on people even wrong? Seems you have to borrow from my world view in order to even argue against it.
I am sure people have answered it, but you just didn't like the answer. Slavery and dropping bombs are wrong because hindering the freedom of and killing innocent people is wrong. Now, you may think that borrows from your worldview, but I think the opposite. Firstly, Christians do not have a monopoly on humanitarian issues. Secondly, the Bible is clear that god thinks murder is okay, so long as you do it when he asks. It is also clear that slavery is okay in the Bible. Don't give me your bullshit, Stat. Come up with something that cannot be refuted by your own holy book.
