Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!

[Statler Waldorf]

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The last execution of the Spanish Inquisition that we know of took place in the 1800s. That is 700 years, not 300.

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The Spanish Inquisition began by the decree of Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile in 1480, thus making it 350 years as I originally asserted. For some reason you seem to be tacking on the medieval inquisitions of the 12th century to the Spanish Inquisition.

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Nothing about what you describe below is hypocritical. I have never once presumed to tell you who is Christian and who is not based only on my opinion. The only time I refer to someone as a Christian is when they have referred to themselves thusly

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So by this same logic someone could profess to be an atheist and also profess a belief in God and you’d call them an atheist? Definitions matter, a person does not become a Christian by simply professing to be one.

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and all of those quotes you regurgitated at Min say nothing about whether he considered himself a Christian or not.

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and all of those quotes you regurgitated at Min say nothing about whether he considered himself a Christian or not.

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Let me get this straight, Hitler linked Christianity to a political party he hated and was opposed to, said it was the invention of a religious group he also hated, and said it would lead to the failure of all mankind all the while being a Christian? I am sorry, but that’s downright absurd.

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Christ saw nothing wrong with condemning people to hell. That is torture. So, how again does torture go against his teachings?

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Those were God’s judgments Christ was describing, he never said man had the right to execute such judgments. In fact he stopped the crowd from stoning the adulterous woman for this very reason.

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Not based on the criteria you give. A Christian is a person who has been chosen by god. That is quite clear in the bible. You find god, you become a Christian. Not, Stat gave me the seal of approval, so now I am a Christian. I wonder, how many crusaders did the church see fit to canonize? Looks like they were Christians, bitch.

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Resorting to childish name calling adds no merit to your weak argument. The fingerprints of God’s application of His saving grace are good works and a following of the teachings of Christ. So to say that people who tortured and murdered others were somehow displaying these works is again absurd.

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You presume to know what I think now? You really a self important fucker, aren't you?

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More childish name calling? *yawns* Change the record.

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How do you know that? How do you know that god didn't tell them to do what they did? How do you know that they didn't find god?

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God ceased divine revelation with the death of the apostles, so that’s how I know He did not “tell” them to do anything.

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Interestingly, I never said that Jesus told his followers to kill witches and Muslims. I have no burden of proof. You wildly asked me to prove this to show that Jesus gave the go ahead for the Crusades and Inquisitions. Interestingly, I never said that, either. All I said was that those people were Christians. You are the one who made up the false criteria for being a Christian. I found my criteria for it in your holy book. So, I am not going to hunt for proof of something I never said. You still have not admitted that you pulled your insane statistics out of your ass. You went from a combination of the death tolls of Crusades and the Inquisitions were less than one day in Cambodia during the genocide. Then, you only counted less than half of the Inquisition years and changed your tune to a week, instead of a day. Fuck that, Stat. Why should I provide you with anything when you are just making shit up as you go? Your debates are filled with half truths and dishonesty. Don't even bother replying. I am entirely sick of having to pull teeth to get a fact out of you and tired of you putting up strawmen and then asking me to prove them when I never even suggested them.

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More whining just because I made you look ill-informed I see. You are the one changing definitions, a person is no more a Christian by professing to be one than they are an attorney by just professing to be one. Definitions matter despite what you seem to think.
You are the one who seems to think the Spanish Inquisition started in the 12 cnetury and not the 15th century like history tells us.
Your point was that the inquisition was of the same degree destruction as the atheistic atrocities of the 20th century. I said that more people died in Cambodia in one day than did in 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition. Considering that the average death toll per day of the Cambodian Genocide was 1200 (the inquisition totaling 1400-4500) it is quite possible and very likely that more people did die on certain days than ever did in the inquisition. The truth of the matter is you wanted to play the citation game, and I went through the trouble to play along (something you never did). Even after I did provide all the citations you requested my arguments showed to be quite accurate and yours showed to be absurd (if the inquisition really was on par with the Cambodian Genocide as you initially claimed we would expect 1.7 million people to be killed by it, something no historian believes). Bottom line, I had fun we should definitely do this again sometime! :-D

Agreed. Let's face it, I'm pretty certain every Christian is guilty of thought crime, so they are all fucked as well. Actually given how poor their arguments can be, I doubt they are capable of thought crime. Thankfully magic sky genocidal maniac doesn't likely exist.

Why do you forget or ignore the fact that a Christian is someone who by definition has had Christ atone for all of their sins? So they are not “doomed” at all.