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Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
#61
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
(January 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm)JudgeDracoAmunRa Wrote: What if God actually used raw elements that he drew atom-by-atom from the ground? Try describing that in a language that has no scientific vocabulary or concepts.

Garbage on two counts. Firstly, god did no such thing, man was never "created" out of anything at all. Secondly, the language necessary to understand such concept absolutely did exist at the time, and if a god so chose, it could have conveyed factually accurate and valuable knowledge instead of superstitious nonsense.

Quote:What if, yes what if, God was an ET with mega-advanced technology. This ET-God abducts Mary one night while she's asleep. He uses IVF technology to grab one of her eggs. He fertilizes it with one of his ET-Godlike super-sperm (dont ask me how he got his hands on that). And then implants the whole thing back in Mary's womb.

Sometime later, while Mary's out shopping or something, ET-God shows up posing as an angel and tells Mary she is with child. Hey presto! Virgin birth! End to the mistranslation dispute.

Except that this didn't happen either, but you do love those "what if"-s...don't you.

"All you need to know to be a christian is"...very very little...in fact, knowledge is a huge hindrance. I don't accept vicarious salvation, least of all by sacrifice... They can keep it, it's disgusting to even consider the concept.


I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#62
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
Quote:Lets see - Genesis is Historically and scientifically proven WRONG

Really? This is new to me. Please provide me with scientific facts (that aren't thereories) that contradict the genesis story? Actualy, ill take it a step farthur. Provide me with a just a link to a reliable source about a well accepted theory that contradicts the genesis story (before you waste your time; neither the big bang theory, or the theory of evolution do. However, if you don't believe i would be happy to discuss this with you.)

Quote:THe great Flood NEVER happened- and that is proven by the successive Pharaohs in Egypt unstopped by such a flood.

Where did you get this too? The flood would have happened before there was a "pharaohs". And even if it did, I do not believe the flood to have been global (more in depth here.).

Quote:THERE is no support for the fables of moses - bondage at that time with egypt - or the wandering in the desert
THe story of Jericho has been established to be wrong as well

What are your sources for this? You need to research things. I found this source after a single google search. I have a feeling that more would come the more I would search.

Quote:Bethlehem was not a city at the time claimed
THe Romans did not crucify thieves - they sent them to the lions. THey only crucified traitors - and direct threats to the state.

Bethlehem was not a city at the time claimed? What time did the bible claim? What are your sources for this information? The romans did not crucify thieves? I have a historical book that says otherwise; What source do you have? ... Jesus was a traitor. He was a direct threat to the state.

Quote:THe story of the christ is filled with holes - among those that it is scientifically nonsense as well.

Please explain using well accepted theories or facts.


Quote:IF a god HAD impregnated Mary - the result would have been a female - there is NO HUMAN Y chromosome in the mix.

Assuming god was a male human being. God was neither male, or human. He does, however, retain the power to make human y chromosomes.


Quote:If we assume a god would have to be a different species than a human - then the result of the mixed procreation would NOT have been a human - but a MUTT of the two different species - like a MULE.

Do you believe that god had sex with Marry? That would be preposterous, as looking at god would kill you. God impregnated her. Not had sex with her. Impregnated her.


Quote:And no one saw the ressurection of the christ - even in the bible - there is NO eye witness to such an event - why would a god go through all that preparation - and not have any witnesses to it?

Huh? The entire new testiment is account after account after account.

Quote:The evidence that christians are idiots -= yes indeed you have proven that with your link

If not understanding your arguments make me an idiot; than I am as you say. What specifically about my link did you find so idiotic? That it contained theories that allow science and Christianity to co-exist peacefully?

Know why you hate something before you hate it. I challenge you to challenge your beliefs, just as I challenge my own.

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#63
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
Flakey, no one can cure your massive ignorance with a web site. The first thing you need to do is get your head out of your ass....and your fucking bible... and start learning shit.

You are far behind the learning curve. My sense is you are happy being a complete asshole and have no desire to change.

If you ever do, come back and there are actual fucking books you can read where maybe you can start to undo the damage done to your brain by that bullshit bible of yours.
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#64
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
Perhaps I was too aggressive. Regardless, If what you say is true, Minimalist, then I BEG you for the resources (available online please). If it really is so apparently common knowledge and facts that prove Christianity to be bunk, why is it that everyone refuses to help find some resources that prove my current belief wrong?
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#65
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
You've already proven that you have no interest in evidence or the scientific method, so why would anyone try again with you, when you're happy being an ignorant little cunt?
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#66
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
Flakey...you are just not worthy of any effort on our part.

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#67
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
Frankly, you can't make goats have striped offspring by making them look at striped sticks.* Or, flakey, are you claiming that someone can?

*Gen 30:37-39
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#68
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
The big bang and evolution? Why on earth would we need to invoke either for genesis to be complete horseshit?

Geology- Hard physical evidence, not theories, that give us an age range this rock, and explain exactly why there was no "Deluge"

Archaeology and Anthropology- Hard physical evidence that pertains to our origins (without even invoking evolution) and subsequent distribution. In addition to hard physical evidence about our myth making addiction.

Botany-Hard physical evidence that demonstrates just how the plants we know today got where they are, specifically agricultural species..which were not poofed into existence, and were not present at the dawn of mankind.

Physics and Astronomy-Hard physical evidence describing just why the miracles in genesis are garbage.

Go sign up for some CC, or read a book, or google any of these topics for yourself troll.

Then, of course..the irritating bit about all of these fields converging in on a single, well demonstrated picture of a human experience on this rock sans god. Not ever, not anywhere, not your myths, not their myths. No theories required. Even after all of this, if we find ourselves staring at some unexplained thing, defaulting to goddidit is just about the most ignorant thing one could do. If you want to box your god in like that, then fine. When your god goes the way of all the rest you'll have no one but yourselves to blame. Take another look.....because that's just the rough overview. The truth is that every single field of hard science completely rules out the genesis narrative. That rules out the creation and flood myths in every single detail.

(January 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm)organiccornflake Wrote: Perhaps I was too aggressive. Regardless, If what you say is true, Minimalist, then I BEG you for the resources (available online please). If it really is so apparently common knowledge and facts that prove Christianity to be bunk, why is it that everyone refuses to help find some resources that prove my current belief wrong?
Because you've made such an ass of yourself with that single statement that no one cares. You shouldn't need any help finding this stuff, did you pass the 5th grade? If so, you should be pretty well aware already. Willful ignorance doesn't deserve assistance.

I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#69
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html

Start here, Flakey.
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#70
RE: Ten Reasons I'm Not a Christian
(January 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm)organiccornflake Wrote: Perhaps I was too aggressive. Regardless, If what you say is true, Minimalist, then I BEG you for the resources (available online please). If it really is so apparently common knowledge and facts that prove Christianity to be bunk, why is it that everyone refuses to help find some resources that prove my current belief wrong?

Have you ever considered or even, have you ever concerned yourself to think that little or none of the bible has been proven true?
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