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Islam true religion?
RE: Islam true religion?
(February 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:
(February 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm)whateverist Wrote: This is beginning to smell of straight up proselytizing. I guess if we want to be among the popular/smart people we'd better convert to Islam.
Not really. Everyone is saying Islam isn't the fasted growing religion and I am just producing evidence to why it is.

You are all quoting out of context verses showing you lack knowledge

I think Islam is the fastest growing. . .but that doesn't mean that Islam is correct.

At one point in time, Christianity was the fastest growing. Now it's not. Sooner or later, Islam will fade.

I don't think you recently converted to Islam, either. You are accepting a great many things (such as that Muhammad was honest) as facts with no proof. This reeks of brainwashing over a long term.
What falls away is always, and is near.

Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD
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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: This is getting desperately sad now if it wasn't already. Would you accept the Appeal to Popularity as a valid slam-dunk argument the way you expect us to if you were presented with videos/statistics/figures/whatever showing that atheism is rapidly on the rise? Or Buddhism? How about Scientology?
This is how I debate. It's called backing my opinions with facts.

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RE: Islam true religion?
All these names you have given me are for anatomists and similar who, for whatever reason, claim that the qu'ran contains medical knowledge. I must admit that I have never heard of any of these people and none of them, as far as I can tell, actually claim to be muslim. Please feel free to indicate where they have fully embraced your faith.

Can you please give me the names of either physicists, cosmologists, paleontologists, astronomers, geologists or any other serious and non-medical disciplines that have converted to Islam please.

Also, no, you haven't given any evidence that the moon was split into two pieces because if it had and there was real evidence then it would be one of the most awesome discoveries mankind had ever made.
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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm)Darwinian Wrote: All these names you have given me are for anatomists and similar who, for whatever reason, claim that the qu'ran contains medical knowledge. I must admit that I have never heard of any of these people and none of them, as far as I can tell, actually claim to be muslim. Please feel free to indicate where they have fully embraced your faith.

Can you please give me the names of either physicists, cosmologists, paleontologists, astronomers, geologists or any other serious and non-medical disciplines that have converted to Islam please.

Also, no, you haven't given any evidence that the moon was split into two pieces because if it had and there was real evidence then it would be one of the most awesome discoveries mankind had ever made.
As for Scientists, I suggest you to google it. I don't want to post a long list of names.

Actually the moon was split. Like I said = Muhammad said and a King confirmed his words. Whatever the Quran says, we believe it. Why? because there is evidence for it.

I have shown prophecies that have come true, Scientific evidence of Quran and also converts testimonies just now. I think I won this debate. Worship (large)
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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:
(February 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: This is getting desperately sad now if it wasn't already. Would you accept the Appeal to Popularity as a valid slam-dunk argument the way you expect us to if you were presented with videos/statistics/figures/whatever showing that atheism is rapidly on the rise? Or Buddhism? How about Scientology?
This is how I debate. It's called backing my opinions with facts.

Thanks for sharing. Want to answer my question now?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: As for Scientists, I suggest you to google it. I don't want to post a long list of names.

You mean you can't find any.

Quote:Actually the moon was split. Like I said = Muhammad said and a King confirmed his words. Whatever the Quran says, we believe it. Why? because there is evidence for it.

No it wasn't. Why? Because there is ZERO evidence for it. And no-one who's mind hasn't been twisted and contorted by ancient superstition would agree with you.

Quote:I have shown prophecies that have come true, Scientific evidence of Quran and also converts testimonies just now. I think I won this debate. Worship (large)

If you wish to think that you have won any of the debates you've had here then fine, whatever makes you happy. After all, if ignorance is bliss then you must be ecstatic!

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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 1, 2012 at 3:02 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(February 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:
(February 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: This is getting desperately sad now if it wasn't already. Would you accept the Appeal to Popularity as a valid slam-dunk argument the way you expect us to if you were presented with videos/statistics/figures/whatever showing that atheism is rapidly on the rise? Or Buddhism? How about Scientology?
This is how I debate. It's called backing my opinions with facts.

Thanks for sharing. Want to answer my question now?
Yes I would. Go post any vidoes you want but the converts videos actualyl show Islam is true. There are converts from Christianity and Atheism. I doubt any religion can get more converts like Islam.

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RE: Islam true religion?
The saddest part of all this is that there's been no debate. Zakir spouted a load of impossible rubbish about prophecies, liberally sprinkled with Appeals to Authority and Popularity for flavour. We respond with reasons why this is all crap, he comes back with, essentially, "I'm right, you're wrong, here's some more Google to prove it."
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Islam true religion?
(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: I'm back with improved debating skills! Firstly, I read that Islam doesn't treat unbelievers well in this topic or maybe the other one. To end the lies, I have decided to paste this link http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2011/0...anity.html

Basically, it's showing that Islam brought an end to Slavery and how ALL human beings are equal. I would advise for all of you to read even though it isn't exactly evidence to why Islam true but still it refutes the lies that Islam is harsh on unbelievers so please do read.

Yeah, Christians use this argument all the time.

"People were always equal, but abolishing slavery then would've been bad for society, so for that time, people weren't equal".

Its bullshit. God modified his rules for convenience of people, but god's morality is still absolute.

(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Another thing, I laugh so hard that all of you are saying that Islam makes no sense. Why? Because you all believe in that the world just began magically and the world magically rearranged it self for no reason into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs.

No, because we don't believe in magic. If god created the world and then arranged everything in it, that would be magic. Everything that happened, from the way this earth began to beginning of life to where we are now, was the necessary progression according to laws of nature. At no point any magic or magical entity like god was involved.

(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Another thing I laugh about is that you actually believe that we were all once apes.

No, we believe that our ancestors were apes. Though you are doing a very good impression of one.

(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: According to the Holy Quran, which is backed by evidence according to the links I provided, Evolution is false.

According to reality, the quran is false.

(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Just doesn't make sense.

Since you don't have the mental capacity to understand it.

(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Do you really think that something exploded for no reason and it was by chance that the world was created?

No. No one thinks that the world was created in an explosion

(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Think about it, if there is creation then there must be a creator.

And since the world was not "created" there is no need for a creator.


(January 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: I advise you all to watch Adam Deen videos and William Lane Craig (when he refutes atheism).

Who is laughing now? Wink

Everyone. At you.


(January 31, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Oh and for the Peace be upon him thing, that's our way of paying respect to our prophet. A man who was considered as the Greatest man to ever live by many historians and famous people.

Interesting. Considering how he cannot even be shown to be real.

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RE: Islam true religion?
According to reality, Islam is false? No. According to Reality, Islam is true and I proved that with the converts videos I just posted.

Largest growing religion (still growing Smile )

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