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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm
(January 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Use a credit card. It doesn't have pointless slogans written on it. I never thought of it that way (what you said is true, except for some credit card companies, like MasterCard). Are there places you can get a custom credit card? Maybe I can get one that says "There is no god".
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm
You're so deep you drowned, nimrod.
Trying to update my sig ...
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm
(January 30, 2012 at 8:33 pm)walknh2o Wrote: So do I man....stilll can say aloud texts from Genesis to Revelation from King James stored in the closet.
P.S. but I have lots of Sitchin's books....from the 12th planet to the latest Homo sapien,sapien edition.
I just don't think the religious motto on currency will change my position of atheism. I once used a dollar as a match to lit my cigarettes.
Economy is nothing but a delusion and man-made concept. Religious motto won't change your position of belief and they never will.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 9:03 pm
(January 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm)Epimethean Wrote: You're so deep you drowned, nimrod.
Specially one like me that have seen 4 orange humongous UFO's in Tucson,AZ night skies 2005.
Nobody can convince me that UFO doesn't exist.
That's why I am a converted deep thinker...and went for the truth about human history, led me to the Sumerian texts and became Enkites, the creator of mankind, the first adamu of the garden of eden, between two rivers in Iraq.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Americans can be atheists? Of course they can if they simply don't believe in deity. So what is your point, anyway?
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 9:26 pm
(January 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm)AthiestAtheist Wrote: (January 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Use a credit card. It doesn't have pointless slogans written on it. I never thought of it that way (what you said is true, except for some credit card companies, like MasterCard). Are there places you can get a custom credit card? Maybe I can get one that says "There is no god".
I was going to get the AA Atom logo on mine but considering I live in the state that just passed a resolution making this the year of the bible, it's a good (and probably healthy) thing I opted for a picture of a cute chimp.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm
If you are bothered by it, just mark out "in god we trust".
Religion is like a Penis, you shouldn't whip it out in public and you shouldn't shove it down your child's throat.
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm
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(January 30, 2012 at 8:32 pm)Blam! Wrote: (January 30, 2012 at 4:51 pm)walknh2o Wrote: History lesson:
President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed Public Law 140 making it mandatory that all coinage and paper currency display the motto "In God We Trust." The following year, Public Law 851 was enacted and signed, which officially replaced the national motto "E Pluribus Unum" with "In God We Trust" All of this occurred at the height of cold war tension, when political divisions between the Soviet and western block was simplistically portrayed as a confrontation between Judeo-Christian civilization and the "godless" menace of communism. Indeed, the new national motto was only part of a broader effort to effectively religionize civic ritual and symbols. On June 14, 1954, Congress unanimously ordered the inclusion of the words "Under God" into the nation's Pledge of Allegiance. By this time, other laws mandating public religiosity had also been enacted, including a statute for all federal justices and judges to swear an oath concluding with "So help me God."
Is it a futile form of protest? A symptom of frustration? Some Atheists and separationists are crossing out the national motto on paper money. Whatever your opinion, the history of how "In God We Trust" ended up on currency shows that the motto is religious, not secular, in its origin and function today.
Which is clearly violation of USA's Segregation of Church and State:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." - The First Amendment of USA's Constitution.
"in God we Trust" is, indeed, a religious motto. But nevertheless, the such motto does not change the position of Atheism. In fact, I have my own King James version bible in my shelves and I'm still atheist.
You're cooking the straw men fallacy too much, man. It's all burnt now.
Nostradamus knew better during the "inquisition" he wrote deep,deep words to avoid being charge as a heretic......see words always have meanings . If an American got kidnapped in an Islamist country,they can deny he/she is from America, but if they found "dollars" in their possession, their heads will be next to go.......again, dollars represent a double whammy's religious and identity representation.
Those Islamists terrorist will accused you as Christian believer because the dollars found in you says...IN GOD WE TRUST.
(January 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm)AthiestAtheist Wrote: (January 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Use a credit card. It doesn't have pointless slogans written on it. I never thought of it that way (what you said is true, except for some credit card companies, like MasterCard). Are there places you can get a custom credit card? Maybe I can get one that says "There is no god".
It will not go through...Master card still pay(deal) in dollars IN GOD WE TRUST
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 9:41 pm
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(January 30, 2012 at 8:28 pm)walknh2o Wrote: (January 30, 2012 at 7:47 pm)Hitchslap Wrote: So because RELIGIOUS PEOPLE put in god we trust on the money you dont want to "join" ATHEISTS because they cant do anything about it? completetly stupid argument that's a non sequitur but fine, we dont want moronic fanatics in our group who ignore counter-points. And stop pretending like you dont have a religious agenda here. If you want change, start a revolution or kindly shut up about it because nobody here is going to stop using currency in America. I am "ENKI believer,he created ADAMU through genetic engineering ,he was the serpent in the garden of eden....almost all old testament stories derived from the Sumerian texts, from creation stories to Noah's flood.I believe in "alien gods ,extraterrestial beings from another planet.
Sorry that you think wrong of me.
So you're a Raelien then? That's complete crap for this planet. We can trace back out Evolution back to pretty much to the beginning and its anything but divine work of an "alien-god"
I wont deny that there are aliens because the odds of being alone in the cosmos is next to zero but UFO stories are horseshit too and have never been proven, if an alien came here, we would all know about it. This idea to think that you are so special that an alien must have planted his DNA in the planet is anthropomorphized hogwash. It's just another religion to hold the homo sapiens above other animals when we are not, we are all from the same chain of life on this planet and yes our origins start in space but to postulate that an alien-god ..by the way..why does it have to be a "god" alien anyway? its not a god if its a physical thing, just god-like.. What kind of dumbass alien-god would put us on a planet full of bacteria and peril when there are hundreds of thousands of goldy-locks planets to choose from.
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