Hamza Tzortzis

[Darwinian]

Your desire for ultimate justice is no reason to suspect that such a thing actually exists. It's simply your personal desire.

you can put that to the test, imagine your loved one being killed by somone unknown to you, and the murderer escapes convction until his natural death at the age of 90. Are you hoping for a divine help to give you justice or just let it be until you youself die.? And are you at peace with your self ? Only believing in supreme being can make you at ease with yourself

My hopes and/or desires are totally irrelevant and have absolutely no bearing on how the Cosmos actually works in reality.

How can you not see this?

[Zakir_250]

If you're concerned that your touchscreen might be making it harder for us to understand you, try clicking "Preview Post" first. That way you can make changes if you have to.

Also, please introduce yourself properly in the Introductions section instead of hijacking my thread.

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I am new to online forum, and the various features they have. i apologize for being illiterate in that. didnot mean to hijack.

Thanks br zakir for the caution. I'm not sure if i am in the right crowd for discussing this.

Everyone please behave like adult, let's discuss this without unsulting each other belief and culture.

others' wrote something about honor killing. well, it has nothing to do with Islam. you have been watching too much cnn. not being able to differentiate between culture and religion.

Okay Akhi. If you need help then feel free to pm me. I am always here for you.

[Koklanas]

Being drunk and doing drugs fall under doing harm to your self. that harm causes you to die young or causes damage to your heart or lungs, brain etc then that is the punishment awarded to you by the Supreme Being. You dont expect positive reward like good health from the supreme Being for such a destructive hobby.

You may have misunderstood with I meant with 'at ease'. Again I may have used the wrong word due my poor english.

[Phil]

If you're concerned that your touchscreen might be making it harder for us to understand you, try clicking "Preview Post" first. That way you can make changes if you have to.

Also, please introduce yourself properly in the Introductions section instead of hijacking my thread.

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I am new to online forum, and the various features they have. i apologize for being illiterate in that. didnot mean to hijack.

Thanks br zakir for the caution. I'm not sure if i am in the right crowd for discussing this.

Everyone please behave like adult, let's discuss this without unsulting each other belief and culture.

others' wrote something about honor killing. well, it has nothing to do with Islam. you have been watching too much cnn. not being able to differentiate between culture and religion.

Okay Akhi. If you need help then feel free to pm me. I am always here for you.

Irony is not your strong suit.

[Epimethean]

Zak is a keeper of his word. LOL, so you really never left. Predictable.

[Zakir_250]

Zak is a keeper of his word. LOL, so you really never left. Predictable.

I have left but I'm still reading this forum to see what Atheists are thinking. Oh and I came back because someone offered to debate me so I responded. Now I'm just warning a fellow Muslim brother the dangers of speaking to people like you.

Goodbye.

[Phil]

people like you.

Racist too.

[Epimethean]

You never left, Zak. That was pointed out by the mods. You have yet to do one honest thing here. You have no clue how to debate and you cannot keep a promise, apparently even to yourself. Great muslim principles there, bud.

[Zakir_250]

people like you.

Racist too.

How is that racist? I meant rude people like you.

Goodbye.

[Koklanas]

Your desire for ultimate justice is no reason to suspect that such a thing actually exists. It's simply your personal desire.

you can put that to the test, imagine your loved one being killed by somone unknown to you, and the murderer escapes convction until his natural death at the age of 90. Are you hoping for a divine help to give you justice or just let it be until you youself die.? And are you at peace with your self ? Only believing in supreme being can make you at ease with yourself

My hopes and/or desires are totally irrelevant and have absolutely no bearing on how the Cosmos actually works in reality.

How can you not see this?

I cannot see it unless you can tell me what happens to the injustice one does to you. Cosmos is just a creation and plays no role in reward and punishment. Cosmos behave the way the are now because of supreme being controls it. The being can make it out of equilibrium at any time.