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Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 5:21 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/24/su...ts-abuses/
Watch how quick they claim that corporations arent people, and therefore are immune to being charged with human rights abuses.
Quote:Attorneys for corporations argue that only individuals, such as company employees or managers involved in the abuse, can be sued, a position adopted by a U.S. appeals court in New York. Other courts ruled corporations can be held liable.
Just watch...corporations will be given extra special "people" priveledges...ones in which they gain all of the good stuff, and none of the bad stuff.
Corporations are people, but will the be held as responsible?
Im with this guy:mjcc1987
Quote:in a 5-4 ruling, SCOTUS will state that for political power and speech and rights, corporations are people. For responsibilities of actions or morality, no, they are not people. Really, it's not hard for the 5 conservatives to be disingenuous and speak out of both sides of their ass. They voided the constitution and appointed a President, this is a cake walk ideologically. Corporations get the benefits of citizenship without all that responsibility crap attached
We no longer have a respresentative democracy. it is now officially an oligarcy of corporations. how can my single vote mean ANYTHING compared to the koch brothers MILLIONS poured out to buy politicians? Neither Democrat nor Republicans are doing anything to stop it...so why the F should i even vote?
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 7:02 pm
It would seem the US government is run by these uber rich oligarchs anyway. It's so despicable that those with money think they can operate above the law, that somehow their money means they can violate basic human rights willy-nilly.
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 7:06 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2012 at 7:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
They don't operate above the law, they re-write the law until it forms the very foundation of their bullshit.
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 7:11 pm
A lawyer friend warned me; ;do not try to fight against commerce,it's a stacked deck;you WILL lose.
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Corporations shouldn't get the benefits of citizenship in the first place. They aren't people; they are merely made up of people. Why should an entire corporation suffer for the crimes of a few people in it? People can be easily replaced in a company, but if the entire company is sued and taken down, how many jobs will be lost?
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 8:55 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2012 at 8:55 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Quote:Corporations shouldn't get the benefits of citizenship in the first place. They aren't people; they are merely made up of people
Actually. However,the US supreme court declared a corporation is legally a person in the late nineteenth century. This means especially that a corporation can own property,buy and sell in its own right AND be taxed in a special,preferential manner.In Practice, corporations are also used to hide wealth and avoid personal tax.
I also think nil-liability companies are immoral,no matter how practical [for the companies]
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 8:58 pm
IMO, the Supreme Court declaring corporations as people doesn't make them people
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 8:59 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2012 at 8:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Your opinion vs their precedent in litigation between the two of you then? They're people (except when it;s inconvenient, of course).
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 9:07 pm
I understand that they are legally "people" in the US; my point (albeit badly worded) is that I don't believe they should be.
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RE: Supreme Court to decide if corporations can be sued for human rights abuses
February 25, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Yeah, it's definitely not one of our best moments.
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