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Did No One See This?!
#11
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That's not the point - the employer can't ask if you're on birth control, no. What they can do is deny you coverage. So the $9 BC I get at Wal-Mart would become $30 or more. Which is still cheaper than having a kid, but seriously.
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#12
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I can't see this working at all. It's none of your employer's business what prescriptions you have, and demanding to see one goes against your medical privacy.
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(March 16, 2012 at 9:39 am)Jaysyn Wrote:
(March 16, 2012 at 9:26 am)Phil Wrote: I can't see a law like this having any possibility of being implemented. This would be against HIPPA laws which are so severe, a hospital employee can not even call you by name without your consent. Could you imagine this bypassing that? I used to joke with the nurses that HIPPA is getting so bad they were going to have to put patient photos on the charts instead of their names.

Employers are only tenuously bound by HIPAA.

The really dumb thing about this law is you can just lie to them. They have no legal way of finding out. If they call your doctor up & the doctor discloses your medical information to them then *that's* a HIPAA violation topped off with an invasion of privacy lawsuit against the employer.

You are very correct. Being a union steward I have several times warned the employers and foremen not to ask why people have taken medical leave. There is a reason for privacy.

If I get a head injury, and it gives me some mental problems...then the FUCK if I want my employer and fellow workers to know about that because who wants to work with a "psycho" (and we all know they would say that on the job)

What if you got aids? All of the people on the job would be claiming you are gay.

There are so many reasons why this law is wrong.

...and since when did birth control become slut pills?
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(March 16, 2012 at 9:41 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I can't see this working at all. It's none of your employer's business what prescriptions you have, and demanding to see one goes against your medical privacy.

I'll add to that, outside of your doctor(s) and pharmacist nobody has a right to any of your medical information, not even your spouse.
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Basically birth control is covered in my company's policy as "maintenance" or "preventative" medicine, which insurers are really pushing right now because it costs them money as well to pay for someone having a kid or getting sick, blah blah. What the employer would be able to do is say "no, we don't want birth control included in our policy - that premium everyone pays will not allow anyone who wants it to get contraceptives."

So basically I'm fine with paying a premium every month that allows my coworker to keep smoking and going to the doctor constantly for it because the same policy allows me to do my own shit and no one gets bothered. But if suddenly my boss decides that the smoking is okay but birth control isn't...I'll be finding another job.
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(March 16, 2012 at 9:39 am)Jaysyn Wrote:
(March 16, 2012 at 9:26 am)Phil Wrote: I can't see a law like this having any possibility of being implemented. This would be against HIPPA laws which are so severe, a hospital employee can not even call you by name without your consent. Could you imagine this bypassing that? I used to joke with the nurses that HIPPA is getting so bad they were going to have to put patient photos on the charts instead of their names.

Employers are only tenuously bound by HIPAA.
Really, so are they just going to conjure up your prescription info out of thin air? They can't get the information.
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(March 16, 2012 at 9:48 am)Phil Wrote:
(March 16, 2012 at 9:39 am)Jaysyn Wrote:
(March 16, 2012 at 9:26 am)Phil Wrote: I can't see a law like this having any possibility of being implemented. This would be against HIPPA laws which are so severe, a hospital employee can not even call you by name without your consent. Could you imagine this bypassing that? I used to joke with the nurses that HIPPA is getting so bad they were going to have to put patient photos on the charts instead of their names.

Employers are only tenuously bound by HIPAA.
Really, so are they just going to conjure up your prescription info out of thin air? They can't get the information.

Are you disagreeing with me? That's basically what I said in my next sentence.
(March 16, 2012 at 9:41 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: That's not the point - the employer can't ask if you're on birth control, no. What they can do is deny you coverage. So the $9 BC I get at Wal-Mart would become $30 or more. Which is still cheaper than having a kid, but seriously.

Then that would be a good example of an employer HIPAA violation. As stated previously, state law doesn't trump federal law.

"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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http://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/pr...05/DC64537

"My Employees Don't Want Free Birth Control -- Even If Sandra Fluke Does" Says Catholic Non-Profit President

Quote:FRONT ROYAL, Va., March 5, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In violation of the First Amendment, President Obama has ordered all Catholic nonprofits to provide their employees with so-called "modern methods of birth control."

"We at Population Research Institute reject this unlawful 'mandate'," says PRI President Steven Mosher. "Not only does it violate our deeply held religious beliefs, it also violates our mission: to protect and defend innocent unborn life."

"Sandra Fluke probably doesn't know that the pill is abortifacient," continues Mosher, "But we do. We also know that the powerful, steroid-based drugs that she is so eager to ingest may lead to blood clots, strokes, early breast cancer and cervical cancer."

"We prosecute athletes for using steroids, and then we deceive young women like Sandra Fluke into thinking that taking mega-doses of powerful, steroid-based drugs is completely harmless. How could it be?"

"PRI employees are also not interested in 'free birth control' because they already have a cheap, easy and healthy method of Natural Family Planning that involves no powerful, steroid-based drugs or invasive procedures, and is, in fact, promoted by the Catholic Church. All it requires is a little self-control for a few days a month. And what human activities don't?"

"These are all lessons that Sandra Fluke," concludes Mosher, "along with other students at Catholic universities, needs to be taught. In Fluke's case, maybe one of her Catholic professors could also mention to her that she shouldn't expect others to pay for her recreational sex."
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Bahahahahahahahaha

Someone should prosecute THEM for blatant misinformation of facts, the sanctimonious pricks!
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Quote:"Sandra Fluke probably doesn't know that the pill is abortifacient," continues Mosher, "But we do. We also know that the powerful, steroid-based drugs that she is so eager to ingest may lead to blood clots, strokes, early breast cancer and cervical cancer."

"We prosecute athletes for using steroids, and then we deceive young women like Sandra Fluke into thinking that taking mega-doses of powerful, steroid-based drugs is completely harmless. How could it be?"

Talk about grasping at straws. Furthermore, this motherfucking liar has also decided that Sandra Fluke is a whore, even though she was mainly testifying about a friend who needed BC for PCOS.

Mosher is 100% grade-a lying scumbag.

Also, do you know what they call people who practice "Natural Family Planning"? Parents. Of course it's endorsed by the Catholic church you moron, it doesn't work!
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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