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RE: Why Does God Exist?
March 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm
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(March 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm)elunico13 Wrote: You're right, I do presuppose God. Did you know that without him you can't even make sense of all your questions. Prove it.
Can you demonstrate that god exists? If not, we have nothing more to say to each other.
Quote:I won't discuss the tooth fairy because I don't believe in it
Ok, I won't discuss god with you because I don't believe in it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
March 19, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Because at one time 'we' all worshipped the sun and the moon. King Akenarten of Egypt declared that as this wasn't working, there must be an invisible God. So he stopped his people worshipping the sun and moon. The idea of an invisible God would be taken to Israel by Moses. Plus the Greeks had many Gods. One God Zeus had a son Dionysus with an earthling virgin [yes before Christ came along] Religion all a load of BS anyway and IMO is all Greek mythology
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
March 19, 2012 at 8:42 pm
(March 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (March 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm)elunico13 Wrote: You're right, I do presuppose God. Did you know that without him you can't even make sense of all your questions. Prove it.
Can you demonstrate that god exists? If not, we have nothing more to say to each other.
Quote:I won't discuss the tooth fairy because I don't believe in it
Ok, I won't discuss god with you because I don't believe in it.
Sure, you wanna talk about God. You keep inquiring about him. You know when I ask you these questions I'm demonstrating that without God your worldview doesn't make any sense. These questions expose that. (so back to my question in order to demonstrate the God of scripture) Do you believe science determines some things to be true and some things to not be true???
BTW remember we've already determined you have no justification for your senses being valid.
lo que se puede conocer acerca de Dios es evidente para ellos, pues él mismo se lo ha revelado. Porque desde la creación del mundo las cualidades invisibles de Dios, es decir, su eterno poder y su naturaleza divina, se perciben claramente a través de lo que él creó, de modo que nadie tiene excusa.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
March 19, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Actually God doesn't make sense without FIRST understanding my non-contingent Purple Rabbit from the 26th dimension which was made by supergod the true actus purus.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
April 5, 2012 at 4:05 am
(March 19, 2012 at 8:42 pm)elunico13 Wrote: (March 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (March 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm)elunico13 Wrote: You're right, I do presuppose God. Did you know that without him you can't even make sense of all your questions. Prove it.
Can you demonstrate that god exists? If not, we have nothing more to say to each other.
Quote:I won't discuss the tooth fairy because I don't believe in it
Ok, I won't discuss god with you because I don't believe in it.
Sure, you wanna talk about God. You keep inquiring about him. You know when I ask you these questions I'm demonstrating that without God your worldview doesn't make any sense. These questions expose that. (so back to my question in order to demonstrate the God of scripture) Do you believe science determines some things to be true and some things to not be true???
BTW remember we've already determined you have no justification for your senses being valid.
lo que se puede conocer acerca de Dios es evidente para ellos, pues él mismo se lo ha revelado. Porque desde la creación del mundo las cualidades invisibles de Dios, es decir, su eterno poder y su naturaleza divina, se perciben claramente a través de lo que él creó, de modo que nadie tiene excusa.
Cum tu spem canistro-causa, ego loqui, vel typing, magis, in senior lingua. Ad non punctum in argumentum tibi accedere valet punctum. Nam tu mihi ostendisti te esse ineptiarum. Vobis actu videtur ipsa stultus. Allegans quod sine deo nihil sit, irritum fecistis mandatum tuum confirmet. Ego, enim, posset dicere quod Cthulhu est. Iam argumentum facit fidem esse perfectam rationem ingressus est, et est argumentum deficiat.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
April 5, 2012 at 4:13 am
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(March 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Prove it.
Can you demonstrate that god exists? If not, we have nothing more to say to each other.
We cannot demonstrate that God exists - let me admit that. But that does not stop me from finding solace in someone I have a strong faith in. Finding comfort is enough evidence that God exists. I'm sure you wouldn't find the same consolation if you believe in, say, faries.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
April 5, 2012 at 4:17 am
I find the same consolation in god and fairies.
I'm still astonished every day at the stat that tells me - 6 billion believers in the present day, billions and billions before, not one of them has came up with a shred of evidence. Why is that? Because god is not real, he's made up.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
April 5, 2012 at 4:17 am
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(April 5, 2012 at 4:13 am)Christian Wrote: (March 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Prove it.
Can you demonstrate that god exists? If not, we have nothing more to say to each other.
We cannot demonstrate that God exists - let me admit that. But that does not stop me from finding solace in someone I have a strong faith in. Finding comfort is enough evidence that God exists. I'm sure you wouldn't find the same consolation if you believe in, say, faries.
False. My Spriggan looks out for me whenever I'm in the woods. That's why I've never run into a bear, duh.
In all seriousness though, plenty fo people find comfort in other Gods and Goddesses. I've even run into a few who find that same comfort from thinking that a species of fairy called a House Brownie is watching over them. Is that enough evidence that all those things exist?
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
April 5, 2012 at 4:19 am
(April 5, 2012 at 4:17 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: I find the same consolation in god and fairies.
I'm still astonished every day at the stat that tells me - 6 billion believers in the present day, billions and billions before, not one of them has came up with a shred of evidence. Why is that? Because god is not real, he's made up.
Billions have been spent to find the meaning of life. I am still astonished why science has not been able to prove that God does not exist. Why is that? Because God is real and very much part of the universe.
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RE: Why Does God Exist?
April 5, 2012 at 4:22 am
(April 5, 2012 at 4:19 am)Christian Wrote: (April 5, 2012 at 4:17 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: I find the same consolation in god and fairies.
I'm still astonished every day at the stat that tells me - 6 billion believers in the present day, billions and billions before, not one of them has came up with a shred of evidence. Why is that? Because god is not real, he's made up.
Billions have been spent to find the meaning of life. I am still astonished why science has not been able to prove that God does not exist. Why is that? Because God is real and very much part of the universe.
We can't prove he doesn't exist for the same reason that we can't prove that fairies don't exist. The very concept relies on a magical power capable, by default, of hiding itself from any observation.
I could just as easily claim that I own an invisible cat named Shanique, who can't be smelled, touched, or heard. You can't prove me wrong, so clearly it's correct.
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