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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 6:05 am
As far as I can understand CRod...you are operating from the childish notion of elitist emotionalism. You are no better than a two year old demanding to know why daddy will not allow you to have brownies for breakfast. You are not interested in the truth. You are just the perfect little slave to a non-existent authority that demands that you don't think, don't question and ultimately not know the truth.
All on here have patiently answered your questions as best they can, but because the answer is not "goddidit" you refuse any alternative to you pre-conceived ideology. When you grow up a bit you will understand this but right now you are the "petulant-ignorant child" and your posts reflect this emotional attitude.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 6:26 am
Thank you Neko, but i fancy this discourse and understanding. You're happy with the answers they give because, well, there your answers too. And even if they provide the right answer, i find that there is still more to be understood about why that answer came to be or at least why you specifically as an individual have come to that conclusion.
Are you saying i have no intention for truth whatsoever because i really dont care or because i have my preconceived ideology?
And i do need to grow, you nailed that one the head, easier said than done.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 6:37 am
(April 27, 2012 at 6:26 am)C Rod Wrote: Thank you Neko, but i fancy this discourse and understanding.
No doubt most two year olds would be
(April 27, 2012 at 6:26 am)C Rod Wrote: You're happy with the answers they give because, well, there your answers too.
Only an emotional elitist would make such a statement
(April 27, 2012 at 6:26 am)C Rod Wrote: And even if they provide the right answer, i find that there is still more to be understood about why that answer came to be or at least why you specifically as an individual have come to that conclusion.
What you are looking for is the emotional NEED for belief and this is why your arguments fail.
(April 27, 2012 at 6:26 am)C Rod Wrote: Are you saying i have no intention for truth whatsoever because i really dont care or because i have my preconceived ideology?
Yes
(April 27, 2012 at 6:26 am)C Rod Wrote: And i do need to grow, you nailed that one the head, easier said than done.
No I would posit that you have no desire to "grow" as you put it. You seem to be very happy with the master/ slave scenario and have currently displayed no desire to expand for that mind-set.
This of course is your precognitive and privilege as is the atheistic world view our precognitive and privilege ...all statements to the effect you are woefully behind the current understanding of the world, life and man's place in the "scheme of things" something that your backward theology has no relevance nor guidance.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 6:57 am
But who said im arguing, its discourse and different ideas. There is no persuasion, how could there be any persuasion, its just ideas and differences.
An emotional need or curiosity?
Yes? which one was it?
Growing would be conforming to your worldview, right, or exactly what would it be?
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 7:20 am
(April 27, 2012 at 6:57 am)C Rod Wrote: But who said im arguing, its discourse and different ideas. There is no persuasion, how could there be any persuasion, its just ideas and differences.
cute but no cigar CRod
(April 27, 2012 at 6:57 am)C Rod Wrote: An emotional need or curiosity?
So far you have only displayed emotional NEED and have ignored curiosity as you are dictated to by your belief.
(April 27, 2012 at 6:57 am)C Rod Wrote: Yes? which one was it?
Which one was what?
(April 27, 2012 at 6:57 am)C Rod Wrote: Growing would be conforming to your worldview, right, or exactly what would it be?
Again you refuse to "grow" mentally. This type of smart arse answer I would expect from a 3 year old. How old are YOU mentally??
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Cute, thank you.
"Are you saying i have no intention for truth whatsoever because i really dont care or because i have my preconceived ideology?" Which?
"Smart" arse, at least im smart. Im against conforming, you know like all those 3 year olds. But growing up just isn't me, i love a good joke but the one that only i can deliver. Call it crippling and childish, i call it laughing.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 9:36 pm
(April 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm)C Rod Wrote: Cute, thank you.
"Are you saying i have no intention for truth whatsoever because i really dont care or because i have my preconceived ideology?" Which?
"Smart" arse, at least im smart. Im against conforming, you know like all those 3 year olds. But growing up just isn't me, i love a good joke but the one that only i can deliver. Call it crippling and childish, i call it laughing. It certainly seems like you don't care but for the sake of giving an answer of which I have the most evidence for you do have a preconceived ideology, which I have already stated very matter of factly in previous posts.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 10:08 pm
(March 22, 2012 at 1:06 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Would you give up a guaranteed place in heaven to save the souls of a 1000 atheists?
If you say no then you would not be judged or punished and be allowed into heaven anyway.
No, don't have to... irrelevant question. Jesus died (and rose again) for the 1000 atheists (if they'd just recognize it, mankind's sinful state, and their need for his payment), as well as for me.
DO... or DO NOT... there is no TRY!
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 27, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Good because if it was the former i was going to get worried.
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RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 29, 2012 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
"Just recognizing it" would involve availing myself of a "payment" born of blood. You can keep it. Guess I was just created to be better than that.
One wonders why a "debt" must be "paid" for things that never happened to begin with. Ridiculous shit.
Then-one wonders how magic could be employed to pay it.
Then-one wonders just how small and petty the entity that set this whole system up would have to be.
Tell you what, adddendum to the above. Keep your platitudes, keep your tiny god, keep your "sinful state", and keep your blood money. I don't want a part in any of it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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