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March 27, 2012 at 6:22 am
(March 26, 2012 at 12:55 pm)Chuck Wrote: (March 25, 2012 at 12:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You can't think that their gullibility is only related to bible bullshit, can you?
But which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm
(March 26, 2012 at 5:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:48 am)aleialoura Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:37 am)Godschild Wrote: Those two are nothing more than con artist, and those who buy into this con are looking for material goods not spiritual gifts. If they had read and studied scriptures then they would have seen that those two were not teaching truth of scripture, the ones who gave reaped what they sowed, nothing, they got exactly what scripture teaches. It is always smart to research those thing one invests in, people who do not read and study scripture will always wind up disappointed. They are not true christians, if they were they would have taught sacrifce instead of prosperity. Scriptures do not give a truth of material prosperity, it does teach of spiritual prosperity in a relationship with Christ. It is true that God does grace some christians with great wealth, that comes from His will for their lives.
No true Scotsman.... How many drinks is that?
Well, I'm getting pretty pissed
Isn't it strange how on the one hand GC can proclaim that all that matters is that you accept jeesus and that your actions don't count.
Yet we bring up shit like this and suddenly they're not "true" christians.
As if their actions DO count.
Strange that
I've never said actions do not matter, shows how biased your reading of my post are, that is if you read them. Yes there are many false teachers in the world of christianity, and guess what scripture told us this would happen.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 28, 2012 at 7:53 am
(March 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:48 am)aleialoura Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:37 am)Godschild Wrote: Those two are nothing more than con artist, and those who buy into this con are looking for material goods not spiritual gifts. If they had read and studied scriptures then they would have seen that those two were not teaching truth of scripture, the ones who gave reaped what they sowed, nothing, they got exactly what scripture teaches. It is always smart to research those thing one invests in, people who do not read and study scripture will always wind up disappointed. They are not true christians, if they were they would have taught sacrifce instead of prosperity. Scriptures do not give a truth of material prosperity, it does teach of spiritual prosperity in a relationship with Christ. It is true that God does grace some christians with great wealth, that comes from His will for their lives.
No true Scotsman.... How many drinks is that?
Well, I'm getting pretty pissed
Isn't it strange how on the one hand GC can proclaim that all that matters is that you accept jeesus and that your actions don't count.
Yet we bring up shit like this and suddenly they're not "true" christians.
As if their actions DO count.
Strange that
I've never said actions do not matter, shows how biased your reading of my post are, that is if you read them. Yes there are many false teachers in the world of christianity, and guess what scripture told us this would happen.
You do know it's a sin to tell lies don't you?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-11136-po...#pid249732
Specifically this
Quote:showing only through belief in Christ and forgiveness of sin can one be saved
I'm sure I can find many more of your posts saying the same thing.
Tsk,tsk,tsk.
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm
(March 26, 2012 at 5:43 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And do you think these are the only two engaged in this behaviour?
I could name plenty more, starting with the catholic church.
I remember as a teenager in the 80's hearing that you should give 10% to the church, and you will be rewarded tenfold. It never worked, even though the Vatican has vast riches. It's nothing more than a religious pyramid scheme, though you never get anything back from those you give money to.
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
"You can't put a price on the gifts of the spirit". I agree, it's very difficult to price anything that cannot be measured, doubly so when attempting to price an illusory product. I'm sure the vatican feels that they are doing the world a tremendous service, and that they do not possess the funds required to completely fulfill their obligations, lol, hell, we're getting "salvation" on the cheap.
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March 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm
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One night late at night I happened to be channel surfing when I came across the Crouches. They had some guy on there claiming that there were all these backwards messages in rock & roll albums. I honestly thought this was an old program from the 80's. I mean, first of all, I thought they were long over this "backwards Satanic message" fad. Secondly, the guy had a hairstyle I hadn't seen since the 80's. Lastly, all the rock albums they were listening to were old albums from the 70's and early 80's. I mean, when's the last time you've listened to Electric Light Orchestra? And while I like the Eagles, I do realize that they haven't recorded anything new since the 70's. But no, this was a current program in the early or mid-2000's. I do remember laughing at that lady's elaborate hairdo and pasted on makeup.
I think if they were to listen to some of the raunchy forward lyrics to rap & hip hop music, they'd forget all about this evil Satanic backward message thing.
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Isn't it great that it was their granddaughter who ratted them out. Good on her, that takes cajones.
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 28, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Is it just me or does Jan Crouch look like a drag queen?
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 28, 2012 at 5:08 pm
(March 28, 2012 at 7:53 am)Zen Badger Wrote: You do know it's a sin to tell lies don't you?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-11136-po...#pid249732
Specifically this
Quote:showing only through belief in Christ and forgiveness of sin can one be saved
I'm sure I can find many more of your posts saying the same thing.
Tsk,tsk,tsk.
Arrrah, it may be a sin, but it is forgiven if it is done in the belief of saving power of Jesus.
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RE: Robbing people blind.. for Jesus, of course.
March 29, 2012 at 4:36 am
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2012 at 4:36 am by Godscreated.)
(March 28, 2012 at 7:53 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (March 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:48 am)aleialoura Wrote: (March 26, 2012 at 5:37 am)Godschild Wrote: Those two are nothing more than con artist, and those who buy into this con are looking for material goods not spiritual gifts. If they had read and studied scriptures then they would have seen that those two were not teaching truth of scripture, the ones who gave reaped what they sowed, nothing, they got exactly what scripture teaches. It is always smart to research those thing one invests in, people who do not read and study scripture will always wind up disappointed. They are not true christians, if they were they would have taught sacrifce instead of prosperity. Scriptures do not give a truth of material prosperity, it does teach of spiritual prosperity in a relationship with Christ. It is true that God does grace some christians with great wealth, that comes from His will for their lives.
No true Scotsman.... How many drinks is that?
Well, I'm getting pretty pissed
Isn't it strange how on the one hand GC can proclaim that all that matters is that you accept jeesus and that your actions don't count.
Yet we bring up shit like this and suddenly they're not "true" christians.
As if their actions DO count.
Strange that
I've never said actions do not matter, shows how biased your reading of my post are, that is if you read them. Yes there are many false teachers in the world of christianity, and guess what scripture told us this would happen.
You do know it's a sin to tell lies don't you?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-11136-po...#pid249732
Specifically this
Quote:showing only through belief in Christ and forgiveness of sin can one be saved
I'm sure I can find many more of your posts saying the same thing.
Tsk,tsk,tsk.
What I said is true, Salvation comes through faith in Christ and not works, works however are proof of what you believe. Simple really.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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