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I Am Christ
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RE: I Am Christ
Dafuq did I just read?
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#42
RE: I Am Christ
You read that?!
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#43
RE: I Am Christ
The belief that you, me and everyone else alive or dead is God is more closely linked to hermetic or panentheistic concepts, bordering on pandeism. Its nothing to do with Christianity where you believe in Christ the saviour of fallen mankind, not that you are said saviour.
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#44
RE: I Am Christ
Throughout that entire post you simply made claims on how beneficial your philosophy is. Not once did you actually explain what the philosophy was or the logical pathways it took to gain these benefits.

My best attempt at deciphering what this philosophy entails are as follows:
You put yourself in the shoes of a "messiah" or "hero" so you can wonder what you would do in a similar situation and how you would assert your independence in a method beneficial to human society and to yourself. It also humanizes idols both real and fictional to the point where we no longer look at them in terms of awe and worship but simply lessons to be learned and targets to reach for.

In theory this would cause the individual following the philosophy to make increased efforts to be the best he can be. *However*, it should be noted that even the life stories of "idols" proven to exist are prone to being mixed with a substantial amount of truth stretching and in some cases outright fiction. Should an individual attempt to follow such an idol then they would be setting themselves up to fail and experience a sharp drop in self-esteem when they did.
I conclude that if this philosophy were to be used it could not be used on any idol that is associated with far-fetched tales of the supernatural... like Jesus.
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#45
RE: I Am Christ
(April 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: The belief that you, me and everyone else alive or dead is God is more closely linked to hermetic or panentheistic concepts, bordering on pandeism. Its nothing to do with Christianity where you believe in Christ the saviour of fallen mankind, not that you are said saviour.

That's what I've been trying to tell him, but he ignores me. So much for being a "Christ-like" figure, those beliefs match up perfectly with modern Satanism, which was founded by Anton LaVey.

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#46
RE: I Am Christ
(April 9, 2012 at 12:30 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:
(April 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm)michaelsherlock Wrote:
(April 8, 2012 at 10:25 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:
(April 8, 2012 at 8:30 am)michaelsherlock Wrote: The title of this thread, ‘I am Christ’, although sounding like the rant of a deluded mind, is in fact, a profound notion. A notion that has the power to end wars, famine, inequality and the manipulation, which has been the cornerstone of both religion and politics. This philosophy, which I have termed‘I am Christ’, is not of my own contrivance, but dates back to a time before the alleged advent of Christ himself. Philosophers like Socrates and Plato propagated this ancient idea, along with more modern scholars like, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Carl Gustav Jung, Wilhelm Reich, Albert Einstein and the late professor of mythology at Princeton University, Joseph Campbell, to name just a few.

Although it is an exceptionally useful way of thinking, it is frightening to those malign shepherds who have been at the helm of the sinking ship of humanity, since time immemorial. As a result of the threat posed by this idea, the heads of both religion and politics have released a virus into the minds of the many. In so doing, they have ensured that this philosophy is denied the opportunity to take root amongst the masses. This virus has continued to ensure our masters' ill-gotten power over us. We have given this virus the harmless and innocent name,‘belief.’ Yet, it is far from harmless and has been the favored tool of the malevolent in fomenting disorder and chaos amongst an otherwise intelligent species. Should we be freed from this cognitive prison, the balance of power between the masses and the elites would shift, toppling the naked emperors that have subjugated humanity since the deliberate spread of this mental and emotional plague.

I was wondering how I could best explain the ‘I Am Christ’ philosophy in words that could adequately convey its meaning. Einstein once said that any fool can make something more complicated, but it takes a genius to simplify something, or words to that effect, and so I guess this is going to get pretty complicated!

Blah, blah, blah, blah...

Any thoughts?

I simplify your diatribe down to "meaningless waffle" Does this mean I'm a genius?

The fact that you claim to have "simplified" my post down to "meaningless waffle" and then proceeded to ask whether or not it means you are a genius, should furnish you with the answer to that very question.

I agree, the idea is very simple, yet it seems the application is where we fall down. If I might ask you a question. What country do you live in?

England.

Why?

Just curious. England is a pretty country, in some respects. I stayed in Otley and Ilkly for a short time and found the people there to be, quite nice. England does have a horrible history though, wouldn't you agree?



Quote:The belief that you, me and everyone else alive or dead is God is more closely linked to hermetic or panentheistic concepts, bordering on pandeism.

Good thing the post has nothing to do with that then, aye!

Quote:Its nothing to do with Christianity where you believe in Christ the saviour of fallen mankind, not that you are said saviour.

Again, lucky it has nothing at all to do with Christianity, aye!



You can always trust a person in search of the truth, but never the one who has found it. MANLY P. HALL

http://michaelsherlockauthor.blogspot.jp/
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#47
RE: I Am Christ
I am Mark.
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#48
RE: I Am Christ
(April 9, 2012 at 5:56 pm)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote:
(April 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: The belief that you, me and everyone else alive or dead is God is more closely linked to hermetic or panentheistic concepts, bordering on pandeism. Its nothing to do with Christianity where you believe in Christ the saviour of fallen mankind, not that you are said saviour.

That's what I've been trying to tell him, but he ignores me. So much for being a "Christ-like" figure, those beliefs match up perfectly with modern Satanism, which was founded by Anton LaVey.

Sorry, I thought I addressed your assertion above. I never claimed to be Christ, or Christ like, I see my self more as a kind of.....human being.


Quote:Throughout that entire post you simply made claims on how beneficial your philosophy is. Not once did you actually explain what the philosophy was or the logical pathways it took to gain these benefits.

This is true. The reason I left out those components is to see how people would import their own beliefs and understandings into the vagaries. I find it very interesting and it is essentially symbolic of what the idea/philosophy is about.

Quote:My best attempt at deciphering what this philosophy entails are as follows:
You put yourself in the shoes of a "messiah" or "hero" so you can wonder what you would do in a similar situation and how you would assert your independence in a method beneficial to human society and to yourself.

This is out of line with my understanding and intention, but I find your idea fascinating, yet ultimately flawed and you yourself go into why this approach is flawed, down below.

Quote:It also humanizes idols both real and fictional to the point where we no longer look at them in terms of awe and worship but simply lessons to be learned and targets to reach for.

Again, very interesting approach. But, not what I had in mind.

Quote:In theory this would cause the individual following the philosophy to make increased efforts to be the best he can be. *However*, it should be noted that even the life stories of "idols" proven to exist are prone to being mixed with a substantial amount of truth stretching and in some cases outright fiction. Should an individual attempt to follow such an idol then they would be setting themselves up to fail and experience a sharp drop in self-esteem when they did.
I conclude that if this philosophy were to be used it could not be used on any idol that is associated with far-fetched tales of the supernatural... like Jesus.

I agree.




(April 9, 2012 at 8:39 pm)Insanity x Wrote: I am Mark.

Cool name.

You can always trust a person in search of the truth, but never the one who has found it. MANLY P. HALL

http://michaelsherlockauthor.blogspot.jp/
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