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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 2:47 am
(April 12, 2012 at 2:35 am)TheJackel Wrote: Quote:I decided to write this article to point out the danger of the Armageddon, not as a prophecy which will come to fruition as a result of divine forces
I predict the Sun will, in about 1.5 billion years, start burning more helium than hydrogen. And during this process the sun will get so hot it will vaporize all life on this planet. Then when the sun nears it's end, it will begin to expand and then possibly consume what's left of Earth, or leave it to a slow atomic decaying death in the dimly lit light of a white dwarf star.
And it is this kind of knowledge that led to the birth of what we now call, "the prophets". Excellent example Jackel.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 3:51 am
Quote:Bart does believe in a historical Jesus.
When are you going to learn that "belief" is fucking worthless?
I would never ignore your posts. You are way too much fun.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 7:00 am
(April 12, 2012 at 3:51 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Bart does believe in a historical Jesus.
When are you going to learn that "belief" is fucking worthless?
I would never ignore your posts. You are way too much fun.
I agree with this statement only to a point as I do believe belief isn't worthless. It depends on what kind of belief you are talking about. Empirically supported belief isn't worthless. See, science gives me something I can believe in vs something I some how must believe on blind faith because some ignorant man in a robe tells me to. I can wake up in the morning knowing the sun will begin to rise above the distant horizon at the crack of dawn, and I don't need blind faith to believe it will. And science tells me why empirically. 
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 7:21 am
(April 12, 2012 at 3:51 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Bart does believe in a historical Jesus.
When are you going to learn that "belief" is fucking worthless?
I would never ignore your posts. You are way too much fun.
Does this mean you and Bart have split ways.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 7:25 pm
(April 12, 2012 at 7:21 am)Godschild Wrote: (April 12, 2012 at 3:51 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Bart does believe in a historical Jesus.
When are you going to learn that "belief" is fucking worthless?
I would never ignore your posts. You are way too much fun.
Does this mean you and Bart have split ways.
BTW there is no historical Jesus if you go by actual empirical evidence, and the fact that Jesus is pretty much a ripped copy of the Mithra's and Horus.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I would say the Horus comparisons are a little sketchy. Resurrections are common as dirt, and its only one guy who claimed he had 12 disciples and blah blah blah.
I'm up for debunking Jesus as the next guy, but that one really lacks solid evidence.
Mithras on the other hand it much more solid.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 9:29 pm
(April 12, 2012 at 7:30 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: I would say the Horus comparisons are a little sketchy. Resurrections are common as dirt, and its only one guy who claimed he had 12 disciples and blah blah blah.
I'm up for debunking Jesus as the next guy, but that one really lacks solid evidence.
Mithras on the other hand it much more solid.
I think the issue is a little more complex. The mythology of Christ seems to be a composite of many ancient god-men/gods. Bits from here and there. The best way, I have found, to approach it, is by disecting the Christ myth and comparing each aspect or motif to those of former, and even contemporary characters. Also, look into the hero archetype and read, Otto, Campbell, Jung, for example. This is the way I go about it, and the results are rather convincing.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 10:10 pm
(April 12, 2012 at 7:21 am)Godschild Wrote: (April 12, 2012 at 3:51 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Bart does believe in a historical Jesus.
When are you going to learn that "belief" is fucking worthless?
I would never ignore your posts. You are way too much fun.
Does this mean you and Bart have split ways.
It's not news. He had a whole chapter on jesus bullshit in Jesus Interrupted. It was unconvincing then and it is apparently a warming over of the same old shit.
More argument than evidence which is all you clowns can ever do.
Still, in his field of dissecting your fucking gospel silliness he is unsurpassed.
He should stick with it and leave fairy tales to the kindergarten teachers.
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm
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RE: Armageddon: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
April 12, 2012 at 10:33 pm
Quote:Empirically supported belief isn't worthless.
Empirically supported "belief" is not belief the way these dickheads mean.
Every day of my life the sun has risen in the east. My expectation that it will rise there tomorrow is not based on "belief" but on accumulated evidence.
If it did not rise in the east THAT would be big fucking news.
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