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Re: RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm
(April 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Where did I claim that? Feel free to quote me. Mate, you say it in everyother post! You trot out the "where's the physical evidence" bullshit.
(April 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Quote:And what an ignorant fuck chooses to ignore remains unknown to said ignorant fuck.
And what deluded fuck chooses to believe in complete nonsense remains unknown to said deluded fuck. So you think ignorance is preferable to knowledge. And from ignorance you judge knowledge. Highly commendable I'm sure.
(April 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Quote:No mate.. I know such a persuit to be idiotic. You, however, do not.
You're the one who believes in the spiritual, not me. I've simply ruled it out, the rest is down to you. Whether you can prove what you believe or not is your problem. It always will be. Can I say yet one more time: I don't need to prove your crazy theories. You've used ignorance to prove your position. I'm sure you wouldn't condemn anyone's opposition to that.
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:43 pm
(April 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: ...
So you think ignorance is preferable to knowledge. And from ignorance you judge knowledge. Highly commendable I'm sure.
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I think most atheists would prefer knowledge, it's just that the theist case hasn't presented something convincing enough to constitute knowledge. Something needs to be true to be knowledge.
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Quote:Mate, you say it in everyother post! You trot out the "where's the physical evidence" bullshit.
Yeah, I would quite like to see evidence, the kind I can examine, test and measure at least. It just so happens that science uses those methods too.
If you can't provide something along those lines then we have nothing more to say.
Quote:So you think ignorance is preferable to knowledge. And from ignorance you judge knowledge. Highly commendable I'm sure.
You said it not me. I consider you highly delusional. So now we know how we feel about each other....
Quote:Can I say yet one more time: I don't need to prove your crazy theories. You've used ignorance to prove your position. I'm sure you wouldn't condemn anyone's opposition to that.
What crazy theories of mine? All I've done is dismiss/rule out what you believe to be true.
Simple as that.
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Re: RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm
(April 24, 2012 at 6:43 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I think most atheists would prefer knowledge, it's just that the theist case hasn't presented something convincing enough to constitute knowledge. Something needs to be true to be knowledge.
To make that statement you have to adopt a head in the sand approach to vast swathes of knowledge.
You need to cherry pick your sources to make that work.
The knowledge you refer to is the cornerstone of our society. No one is questioning that knowledge, only some insist that this knowledge should be all that is useful and usable, when clearly it isn't.
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:52 pm
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(April 24, 2012 at 3:58 pm)jess_essential Wrote: No Bible Bashing? Thats funny, because christians wanted to aolish atheism and have us murdered because we didn't COMPLY to what they wanted. I dont believe in god because science does it so much better.
what does science better ?
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:54 pm
(April 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (April 24, 2012 at 6:43 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I think most atheists would prefer knowledge, it's just that the theist case hasn't presented something convincing enough to constitute knowledge. Something needs to be true to be knowledge.
To make that statement you have to adopt a head in the sand approach to vast swathes of knowledge.
You need to cherry pick your sources to make that work.
The knowledge you refer to is the cornerstone of our society. No one is questioning that knowledge, only some insist that this knowledge should be all that is useful and usable, when clearly it isn't.
I'm not following.
What else might be useful?
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Re: RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm
(April 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Quote:Mate, you say it in everyother post! You trot out the "where's the physical evidence" bullshit.
Yeah, I would quite like to see evidence, the kind I can examine, test and measure at least. It just so happens that science uses those methods too.
If you can't provide something along those lines then we have nothing more to say. There you go with that ridiculous claim again. Yeah, give up!
(April 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: I consider you highly delusional. So now we know how we feel about each other.... The opinions of the self professed ignorant should be of interest to no one.
(April 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Quote:Can I say yet one more time: I don't need to prove your crazy theories. You've used ignorance to prove your position. I'm sure you wouldn't condemn anyone's opposition to that.
What crazy theories of mine? All I've done is dismiss/rule out what you believe to be true.
Simple as that.
Mate, you didn't even start.
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 7:02 pm
(April 24, 2012 at 5:15 pm)Watchman Wrote: I don’t propose to engage you over it…
it was your decision to argue with me in regard of this matter......
but if you give a look at my forum, you will find the right answer. The bible gives no room to acuse her to promote a flat earth.
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 7:02 pm
That's fine Fr0d0. That's fine.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
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RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 7:03 pm
(This post was last modified: April 24, 2012 at 7:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Hey Frods, hows about some immaterial evidence? Can we get some of that to grace this thread? You say it's an informed choice, any lines on where we might find this information?
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