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#11
RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm
God's child iss saying omnipotence is powerless to make the world better, so omnipotence demonstrates his goodness by shifting the blame to you
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(May 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm)Tobie Wrote: I suppose evil is not the best term to use, but it is unnecessary death.

How do you define a necessary death?

A death that could be stopped without invalidating god's apparent need for free will.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 5:30 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm)Tobie Wrote:
(May 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: How do you define a necessary death?

A death that could be stopped without invalidating god's apparent need for free will.

Maybe God wanted that person to die in that way.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm (This post was last modified: May 14, 2012 at 5:51 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
Disasters, accidents, and such follow from being finite beings who are not yet capable of fully receiving the Lord’s guidance. In the natural world we live in a state of uncertainty with incomplete knowledge and have limited abilities to detect and deflect threats. From God’s perspective, it is not important how long we live or the number of trials we must endure. Instead, He considers how we endured our trials and how well we used the time available to us.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 6:32 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: God's child iss saying omnipotence is powerless to make the world better, so omnipotence demonstrates his goodness by shifting the blame to you

You are good at twisting things around, it's to bad you are not good at understanding what others write.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 6:40 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Disasters, accidents, and such follow from being finite beings who are not yet capable of fully receiving the Lord’s guidance. In the natural world we live in a state of uncertainty with incomplete knowledge and have limited abilities to detect and deflect threats. From God’s perspective, it is not important how long we live or the number of trials we must endure. Instead, He considers how we endured our trials and how well we used the time available to us.

I wonder by what standard God judges how murdered babies endured their trials. God: Well, I seen a photo of you where it appeared, although you are not fully in control of your motor functions, that you were performing the sign of the devil. Sorry little dude, I'm going to have to err on the side of caution, so it's hell for you.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 6:40 pm)gringoperry Wrote:
(May 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Disasters, accidents, and such follow from being finite beings who are not yet capable of fully receiving the Lord’s guidance. In the natural world we live in a state of uncertainty with incomplete knowledge and have limited abilities to detect and deflect threats. From God’s perspective, it is not important how long we live or the number of trials we must endure. Instead, He considers how we endured our trials and how well we used the time available to us.

I wonder by what standard God judges how murdered babies endured their trials. God: Well, I seen a photo of you where it appeared, although you are not fully in control of your motor functions, that you were performing the sign of the devil. Sorry little dude, I'm going to have to err on the side of caution, so it's hell for you.

Surely you are more intelligent than that, God will receive all babies that are murdered into heaven, even the unborn.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 6:49 pm (This post was last modified: May 14, 2012 at 6:50 pm by Anomalocaris.)
Yet by what standard does god decide which baby gets a free pass through the presumably trumatic process of being killed, and which would be exposed to the possibility of eternal damnation and burning alive for ever, and that sort of shit, by being denied the free pass of being killed and given the dubious benefit of being allowed to fuck up?

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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm
(May 14, 2012 at 6:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: Yet by what standard does god decide which baby gets a free pass through the presumably trumatic process of being killed, and which would be exposed to the possibility of eternal damnation and burning alive for ever, and that sort of shit, by being denied the free pass of being killed and given the dubious benefit of being allowed to fuck up?

ThinkingThinking

How dense are you anyway, does the word "all' just shoot right over your head.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Natural Evil
May 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm (This post was last modified: May 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(May 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(May 14, 2012 at 6:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: Yet by what standard does god decide which baby gets a free pass through the presumably trumatic process of being killed, and which would be exposed to the possibility of eternal damnation and burning alive for ever, and that sort of shit, by being denied the free pass of being killed and given the dubious benefit of being allowed to fuck up?

ThinkingThinking

How dense are you anyway, does the word "all' just shoot right over your head.

So "all" babies die soon enough to go straight to heaven? Why are you still here, then?

ROFLOLROFLOL
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