Nimrod & Religion

[Darwinian]

"If the Sun had never formed then neither would the Earth of any of the other planets or objects of our solar system. It would have remained a cloud of gas and dust.So, you state literally. Does that mean you believe that the Universe physically revolves around this being and if so, where is this being?"

What caused the sun to form? Where did the sun get its energy from?

That's not what's at issue. All the energy of the Universe comes from the big bang. Was there any energy before the big bang? Who knows? Was there any time before the big bang? Again, no-one knows.

Was the big bang everything it seemed to be or is there another explaination for the formation of the Universe, such as M Theory?

You seem to be assuming that because everything is ultimately a form of energy that this means that 'the creator' is this energy. Isn't this just a very anthropic view of nature?

[TRUTH1986]

"If the Sun hadn't formed neither would the earth...."

You're giving a lot of power to something that had to be formed/created, judgeing by your username, I'm not surprised. By the way, I don't trust in man's theories

"Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD." (Jeremiah 17:5)

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." (Colossians 2:8)

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" (1 Timothy 6:20)

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"If the Sun hadn't formed neither would the earth...."

You're really saying "The sun is God, without the sun, nothing would exist." The Sun also plays a big part in evolution. Evolution, which is a form of sun worship, says that the sun provides the energy needed to keep life going on this planet.

Like I said earlier, People have been worshipping the sun since the time of Nimrod, they have created lies to glorify/worship the sun.

[Darwinian]

"If the Sun hadn't formed neither would the earth...."

You're giving a lot of power to something that had to be formed/created, judgeing by your username, I'm not surprised. By the way, I don't trust in man's theories

I'm not giving power to anything, I'm simply stateing accepted fact.

"Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD." (Jeremiah 17:5)

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." (Colossians 2:8)

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" (1 Timothy 6:20)

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Please don't quote passages from the bible at us..

"If the Sun hadn't formed neither would the earth...."

You're really saying "The sun is God, without the sun, nothing would exist." The Sun also plays a big part in evolution. Evolution, which is a form of sun worship, says that the sun provides the energy needed to keep life going on this planet.

Like I said earlier, People have been worshipping the sun since the time of Nimrod, they have created lies to glorify/worship the sun.

Of course the Sun isn't God. God is a creation of Man.

And yes, if the Sun didn't exist then neither would we. However, the Universe would carry on regardless.

I think you're obsessed with worship.. I don't worship anything unless you have some strange definition of the word that we're unaware of..

Would you describe yourself as a fundamentalist, because I think I might..

[TRUTH1986]

What caused the sun to form? Where did the sun get its energy?? The sun hasn't always existed, so it got its energy from something that had energy. That something that has energy, is greater than the sun, because it gave the sun its energy.

[Darwinian]

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"If the Sun hadn't formed neither would the earth...."

You're giving a lot of power to something that had to be formed/created, judgeing by your username, I'm not surprised. By the way, I don't trust in man's theories

I'm not giving power to anything, I'm simply stateing accepted fact.

"Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD." (Jeremiah 17:5)

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." (Colossians 2:8)

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" (1 Timothy 6:20)

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Please don't quote passages from the bible at us..

"If the Sun hadn't formed neither would the earth...."

You're really saying "The sun is God, without the sun, nothing would exist." The Sun also plays a big part in evolution. Evolution, which is a form of sun worship, says that the sun provides the energy needed to keep life going on this planet.

Like I said earlier, People have been worshipping the sun since the time of Nimrod, they have created lies to glorify/worship the sun.

Of course the Sun isn't God. God is a creation of Man.

And yes, if the Sun didn't exist then neither would we. However, the Universe would carry on regardless.

I think you're obsessed with worship.. I don't worship anything unless you have some strange definition of the word that we're unaware of..

Would you describe yourself as a fundamentalist, because I think I might..

I think you really need to explain yourself and your ideology much better because I'm afraid that you aren't making much sense. For example, Evolution is a form of Sun Worship, is obviously not true. Evolution is an explanation for life on Earth. Nothing to do with worship at all.

[TRUTH1986]

Many cultures have worshiped the sun throughout history. The idea that "the earth revolves around the sun.", comes from the people who worship the sun. The Sun God in Hinduism is referred to in Sanskrit as "Mitra" or "Friend" down to the invariable warmth, life-giving nature and optimism its light brings to mankind. It is also called "Prati-Aksh Devta" meaning "The Seen Divinity" and worthy of much worship and reverence. There is nothing new under the sun, there are people today who worship the sun as God. These people have masked their worships in religion, in Christ, holidays, textbooks and science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_worship

[Sam]

What caused the sun to form? Where did the sun get its energy?? The sun hasn't always existed, so it got its energy from something that had energy. That something that has energy, is greater than the sun, because it gave the sun its energy.

The sun formed from the coalescence of dust and hydrogen present in a proto-nebula os some sort, it formation was (most probably) a direct result of shockwaves from nearby supernovae and then of gravity and other attractive forces acting between the atoms/particles and star-essimals. The sun didn't "get" energy! It extracts it from it's constituent parts (if you will) through the process of nuclear fusion where-by hyrdrogen is converted to helium and thus energy is released.

[TRUTH1986]

"Of course the Sun isn't God. God is a creation of Man."

You're 100% correct, man created God(s). The Creator and God(s) are not the same.

[Sam]

"Of course the Sun isn't God. God is a creation of Man."

You're 100% correct, man created God. The Creator and God are not the same.

So you believe in a sentient, all powerful creator ... but do not think of it as a God?

[TRUTH1986]

What caused the sun to form? Where did the sun get its energy?? The sun hasn't always existed, so it got its energy from something that had energy. That something that has energy, is greater than the sun, because it gave the sun its energy.

The sun formed from the coalescence of dust and hydrogen present in a proto-nebula os some sort, it formation was (most probably) a direct result of shockwaves from nearby supernovae and then of gravity and other attractive forces acting between the atoms/particles and star-essimals. The sun didn't "get" energy! It extracts it from it's constituent parts (if you will) through the process of nuclear fusion where-by hyrdrogen is converted to helium and thus energy is released.

"Most probably"? Are you 100% sure?