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Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
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(August 19, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Losty Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Beccs Wrote: Yeah, the bible says that. But yes, the bible also says that. The Book of Armaments 14:12 "And it is an abomination for women to serve with men aboard ships beneath the sea. For the men will be distracted and shall end up playing with their own little submarines. And this is an abomination." Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" (August 19, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Losty Wrote:(August 19, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Beccs Wrote: Yeah, the bible says that. The bible says women shouldn't go down? I don't think so. (May 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: What would real men do?25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. 19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers. If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists... and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible... would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ? (August 20, 2014 at 12:43 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: treat them with respect as the weaker partner All the flowery bullshit before that is wiped away with that crystallization of the problem disguised as a 'moral instruction'.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 20, 2014 at 12:51 pm
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2014 at 12:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think it's ironic that the statement mentions childbirth while declaring the wife the weaker partner. Further, than respect is somehow tied to who has the might, and thusly sets the terms. Respect, in this context, is a gift bestowed upon the "weak" by the "strong". I'll pass. I think I'll continue to respect my wife -as though she were her own -....mostly because she is. She's not stainless, or blameless, or any of that happy horseshit - because she isn't a porcelein doll, and who the fuck would want that anyway?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
And then we have this fine gem:
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35) (August 19, 2014 at 11:37 pm)Losty Wrote: I'm not sure I get the submarine thing, but I don't know anything about submarines. "Do you like my submarine? It's long and hard and full of seamen!"
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Yes, when I'm king of the world, I shall rule over the women of the land and eat sushi upon their naked bodies!
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