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Understanding the bible
#71
RE: Understanding the bible
Quote:First of all this is a moment of time that has happened,

There is no evidence that any of the bullshit in exodus ever happened. Quite the opposite; the artifacts in the ground tell us that your bible is full of shit.
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#72
RE: Understanding the bible
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#73
RE: Understanding the bible
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#74
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So, Godschild, you are saying the bible is perfect as is? Despite all the contradictions, it is perfect?

Is the Old Testament perfect as well? If yes, why did Jesus say it wasn't necessary anymore?
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#75
RE: Understanding the bible
(May 29, 2012 at 3:28 am)Godschild Wrote: There is no need for Him to go back in time, what He's done is perfect and His will has been done, simple really.

This perfect plan you keep talking about, is that the one that was subverted at the beginning by a talking snake?

And then went so badly wrong that god regretted what he had done and decided to start again.

And had to be rejigged yet again with the supposed "sacrifice" of his son.

And to date still hasn't worked properly.

That one?

And BTW, what was gods original plan?

The one that he had in mind before the snake fucked it up.
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#76
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Oh, but Zen, he has a good relationship with his snake!
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#77
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Believe the plan was to laze around in the clouds watching two mostly hairless monkeys fuck like rabbits. The earth and all living things within it seem to have been an excuse for porn. I don't judge, by all accounts god was very lonely.
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#78
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You say this:

"There is no need for Him to go back in time, what He's done is perfect and His will has been done, simple really."

After saying this:

"God can have a will to do something and then change His mind about it ..."

If the former, then why the latter? From your description of god, he is a creature with no need for free will; so why do you attribute it to him?
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#79
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Rhythm Wrote:Believe the plan was to laze around in the clouds watching two mostly hairless monkeys fuck like rabbits. The earth and all living things within it seem to have been an excuse for porn.

Which is why he didn't stop the serpent when it appraoched Eve. He looked on with drool dripping from his chin saying excitedly, "I've seen enough beastiality to know where this is going!"
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#80
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(May 29, 2012 at 12:35 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:First of all this is a moment of time that has happened,

There is no evidence that any of the bullshit in exodus ever happened. Quite the opposite; the artifacts in the ground tell us that your bible is full of shit.

It would be considered blasphemy for all cultures back then to have slaves even touch something as sacred as a tomb. The pyramids were built by Egyptian workers, not slaves.

The exodus never happened.
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