Twitter "debate" on Islam

[Tiberius]

So I thought I'd let you all know that I'm having some kind of long-winded debate with a guy on Twitter about whether Islam should be banned because it espouses ideas that go against human rights.

Naturally, I am against the motion. If you want to follow it or see what has been said:

His twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CrispySea
My twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/ah8r

[Faith No More]

Banning Islam attacks the symptoms and not the disease, the disease being the human propensity to oppress each other using whatever dogma is available.

Side note, the character limitations set by Twitter do not seem to be conducive to an in-depth debate.

[Tiberius]

Side note, the character limitations set by Twitter do not seem to be conducive to an in-depth debate.

QFT.

I didn't intend it to be a debate. I just saw him tweet about an article on whether Islam was illegal due to it going against the Declaration of Human Rights, and I told him that even if it were illegal, it shouldn't be. He disagreed, hence the debate.

[ElDinero]

Well you already know I agree with your stance on this. I was very surprised to find that people here like Rhythm were in support of banning religion altogether when it came up a while back.

The guy you're arguing with is doing that most typical thing; changing the subject. You're doing well to keep him on track.

[downbeatplumb]

I didn't intend it to be a debate. I just saw him tweet about an article on whether Islam was illegal due to it going against the Declaration of Human Rights, and I told him that even if it were illegal, it shouldn't be. He disagreed, hence the debate.

Even if some aspects of Islam were against human rights then those aspects can be changed, the mormons changed their stance on multiple wives and coloured people after all.

The public practice of polygamy by the church was terminated in 1890 by the Manifesto issued by church President Willford Woodruff in which he publicly declared “that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriages forbidden by the law of the land."[2] Today, all of the 14 million members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) are strictly monogamist, and members who are known to practice polygamy are excommunicated.

From 1849 to 1978, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) had a policy against ordaining black men to the priesthood, and forbidding black men and women from taking part in ceremonies in LDS temples. Associated with this policy were various statements by church leaders tying the policy to their view of scripture, and opining that black men and women had inherited the curse of Ham. In 1978, President Spencer W. Kimball, the leader of the LDS church, declared in a statement known as "Official Declaration—2" that the ban had been lifted.

[Mister Agenda]

So I thought I'd let you all know that I'm having some kind of long-winded debate with a guy on Twitter about whether Islam should be banned because it espouses ideas that go against human rights.

Naturally, I am against the motion. If you want to follow it or see what has been said:

His twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CrispySea
My twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/ah8r

Since religious freedom is among those rights, I would think he's at a disadvantage.

[kılıç_mehmet]

So I thought I'd let you all know that I'm having some kind of long-winded debate with a guy on Twitter about whether Islam should be banned because it espouses ideas that go against human rights.

Naturally, I am against the motion. If you want to follow it or see what has been said:

His twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CrispySea
My twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/ah8r

Banned where?
By whom? By whose authoritiy?
Frankly, I don't know how praying in a mosque(or home) supposedly infringes someone elses rights.

[Tiberius]

It doesn't, which is the crux of my argument.

[King_Charles]

Thanks for fighting the good fight buddy!

You're alreadyed noted the limitations of twitter as a debating platform, but I'd be really eager to expand upon what you already have brought up... the notion of a particular stand of Islamism being responsible for most of the intolerance and terrorism being espoused by Muslims today.

As to Iran, people forget the people of that nation are a lot more free than in many, if not most, other Middle Eastern states. The whole reason why Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Ahmadinejad are constantly playing the death to America card is because public opinion MATTERS in that country, and the majority of people in the Middle East really do despise the West. Anyone with a casual knowledge of the history of the reigon for the last hundred years or so will know why. Other Arab "stong men" like to limit their polemics against the west for reasons of realpolitic, and only drum it up when they need to shore up popular support.

[Epimethean]

I'd be really eager to expand upon what you already have brought up... the notion of a particular stand of fundamentalism being responsible for most of the intolerance and terrorism being espoused by theists today.